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    Does Science Argue for or against God?

    Another interesting video from Prager University:


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    Science is limited to what it can see here in the natural... so they are way behind God's technology and cannot access very much of God's stuff at all.

    Although, nano technology is proving intelligent design and apparently there are some scientists that are believing God exists... that's a good first step, now they need to get born again and actually have a relationship with the Creator which of course can only be accomplished thru Jesus Christ.

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    Most scientists argue against God due to their anti-God bias - science itself reveals God is the creator


    So we WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I have not watched the video yet but will say this up front. The FEAR of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom so seems to me many are not getting much wisdom to correctly process the 'knowledge' they gain, thus skewing their conclusions and I would say skewing much of their formulas..God will allow those who reject him to come under strong delusions.

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    Science is limited to what it can see here in the natural... so they are way behind God's technology and cannot access very much of God's stuff at all.

    Although, nano technology is proving intelligent design and apparently there are some scientists that are believing God exists... that's a good first step, now they need to get born again and actually have a relationship with the Creator which of course can only be accomplished thru Jesus Christ.
    A similar thing happened with Robert Jastrow, a world renowned and respected physicist and cosmologist, an excerpt from his story:


    ...His expressed views on creation were that although he was an "agnostic, and not a believer", it seems to him that "the curtain drawn over the mystery of creation will never be raised by human efforts, at least in the foreseeable future" due to "the circumstances of the big bang-the fiery holocaust that destroyed the record of the past".

    In an interview with Christianity Today, Jastrow said "Astronomers now find they have painted themselves into a corner because they have proven, by their own methods, that the world began abruptly in an act of creation to which you can trace the seeds of every star, every planet, every living thing in this cosmos and on the earth. And they have found that all this happened as a product of forces they cannot hope to discover. That there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact."


    ...and one of my very favorite quotes from him regarding biblical accuracy even in areas of science:

    "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jastrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    A similar thing happened with Robert Jastrow, a world renowned and respected physicist and cosmologist, an excerpt from his story:


    ...His expressed views on creation were that although he was an "agnostic, and not a believer", it seems to him that "the curtain drawn over the mystery of creation will never be raised by human efforts, at least in the foreseeable future" due to "the circumstances of the big bang-the fiery holocaust that destroyed the record of the past".

    In an interview with Christianity Today, Jastrow said "Astronomers now find they have painted themselves into a corner because they have proven, by their own methods, that the world began abruptly in an act of creation to which you can trace the seeds of every star, every planet, every living thing in this cosmos and on the earth. And they have found that all this happened as a product of forces they cannot hope to discover. That there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact."


    ...and one of my very favorite quotes from him regarding biblical accuracy even in areas of science:

    "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountain of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jastrow
    Thanks for sharing those quotes...

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    The video is good. There are so many things that we take for granted that are needed for anything useful to exist at all. For instance, the fact that relations expressable as natural laws hold and work the same for every point in space and time. There is no reason for that, the universe could as well exhibit total randomness with e=mc2 at one point and e=mc4 at another point and so forth. It could as well plummet into chaos at any instant unless there is something greater that upholds those laws. Believing in a universe that simply structures and keeps structuring itself is like believing that one can throw playing cards at a card house and the card house will just keep building itself higher and higher indefinitely.

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    The Scientific Evidence for God is Growing, Not Shrinking
    The atheism that masquerades as science misrepresents the history of science.
    By Jonathan Witt Published on November 13, 2015
    https://stream.org/the-scientific-ev...not-shrinking/


    The Origin of Life and the Origin of Science Point to God
    Second in a two-part series on the growing evidence for intelligent design.
    By Jonathan Witt Published on November 13, 2015
    https://stream.org/origin-of-life-of...-point-to-god/
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    This is cutting edge stuff that Atheism and Materialism cannot account for...

    Information Enigma
    Published on Oct 7, 2015

    Information drives the development of life. But what is the source of that information? Could it have been produced by an unguided Darwinian process? Or did it require intelligent design?

    The Information Enigma is a fascinating 21-minute documentary that probes the mystery of biological information, the challenge it poses to orthodox Darwinian theory, and the reason it points to intelligent design. The video features molecular biologist Douglas Axe and Stephen Meyer, author of the books Signature in the Cell and Darwin’s Doubt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-FcnLsF1g


    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    The Scientific Evidence for God is Growing, Not Shrinking
    And now, some are using this to claim aliens are the ones that intelligently designed the universe and they are on their way back soon to save mankind.

    So, this is turning out to be another doctrine of devils.... you know, demons telling people they are aliens from another planet.

    Lots of demons showing shiny stuff in the skys all over the world has a lot of folks believing the alien stuff.

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