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Joyce Meyer - Theology Concerns?
I don't see anything of concern, as some imply. Do you?
I try to give people leeway, as nobody has perfect theology, IMO.
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General question, probably just HH stirring up trouble
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HH sees Pentecostal/Charismatic, that's enough.
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I don't watch/read much of her stuff to have an opinion but I know many people who have been really helped by her teaching.
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I know of folks that have been helped by her teaching as well.
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Hankie has theological issues.
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Originally Posted by
A.J.
I don't watch/read much of her stuff to have an opinion but I know many people who have been really helped by her teaching.
Hankie doesnt like her because she kicks him in the pants.
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Originally Posted by
Jonathan david
General question, probably just HH stirring up trouble
Link?
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Originally Posted by
fuego
Link?
I was working through some of the HH accusations, which are typically trumped-up mis-characterizations. I am about to get into it with another false-accuser online.
But here are some of the allegations on CARM (Quotes from YouTube or The most important decision you'll ever make, by Joyce Meyer - most will get the eye-roll, I know. Any comment/responses/defense?
I believe Jew and Greek has some answers on this...
https://carm.org/joyce-meyer
1 - Jesus stopped being the Son of God: "He could have helped himself up until the point where he said I commend my spirit into your hands, at that point he couldn’t do nothing for himself anymore. He had become sin, he was no longer the Son of God.
2 - Jesus was born again: "The minute that blood sacrifice was accepted Jesus was the first human being that was ever born again," (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neKsa...eature=related)
3 - Jesus paid for our sins in hell: "He became our sacrifice and died on the cross. He did not stay dead. He was in the grave three days. During that time he entered hell, where you and I deserve to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there.”
4 - Jesus went to hell in our place and was tormented: "Jesus paid on the cross and went to hell in my place. Then as God had promised, on the third day Jesus rose from the dead. The scene in the spirit realm went something like this: God rose up from his throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless son of God, 'let him go.' Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus. On earth his grave where they had buried him was filled with light as the power of God filled his body. He was resurrected from the dead -- the first born again man."
5 - If you don't believe Jesus went to hell, you cannot be saved: "His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserve to go… There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth."
6 - We are called little gods: "I was listening to a set of tapes by one man and he explained it like this..this kind of gets the point across...he said why do people have such a fit about God calling his creation, his creation, his man not his whole creation, but his man, little gods?
7 - Joyce Meyer said she is not a sinner: "I am not poor. I am not miserable and I am not a sinner. That is a lie from the pit of hell. That is what I were and if I still was then Jesus died in vain. I'm going to tell you something folks. I didn't stop sinning until I finally got it through my thick head I wasn't a sinner anymore. And the religious world thinks that's heresy and they want to hang you for it. But the Bible says that I am righteous and I can't be righteous and be a sinner at the same time."
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