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    Flat earth

    I have experienced a new challenge..one I have never faced before..

    We met a guy that is convinced the earth is flat...

    I did a little research but am wondering if anyone has really dug into this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I did a little research but am wondering if anyone has really dug into this..

    What do you mean?

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    Are you kidding? WHY would anyone think that?

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    Are you kidding? WHY would anyone think that?

    They have a flat head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I have experienced a new challenge..one I have never faced before..

    We met a guy that is convinced the earth is flat...

    I did a little research but am wondering if anyone has really dug into this..
    Dug into whether the earth is really flat or not?


    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/

    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/f...php?board=12.0


    People have been into space. How have they not discovered that the earth is flat?

    The most commonly accepted explanation of this is that the space agencies of the world are involved in a conspiracy faking space travel and exploration. This likely began during the Cold War's 'Space Race', in which the U.S.S.R and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the others supposed achievements. However, since the end of the Cold War, the conspiracy is most likely motivated by greed rather than political gains. Thus opening up a tremendous amounts of funds to embezzle as it only takes a fraction of the total budget to fake space travel.

    In light of the above, please note that we are not suggesting that space agencies are aware that the earth is flat and actively covering the fact up. They depict the earth as being round simply because that is what they expect it to be.

    There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory?

    In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered. Many of the videos posted here to "prove a round earth" by showing curvature will show no curvature or even convex curvature at parts. The sources are so inaccurate it's difficult to build an argument on them in either case. Furthermore, barrel distortion and other quirks of modern cameras will cause a picture to distort with little or no apparent altercation; especially without references within the picture. Photographs are also prone to distortion when taken through the bent glass of a pressurized cabin as well as atmospheric conditions on the outside. With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted.

    It's also worth noting that if a person were to look down at the earth from high above, they would expect to see a circular shape where the sun's spotlight was shining. This explains why high altitude photographs are generally curved to produce the illusion of a round horizon.

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    Isaiah 11:12 He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.

    Now don't start twisting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    What do you mean?


    OMG..I just had a really good laugh at myself...that was a totally unintentional pun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lista View Post
    Are you kidding? WHY would anyone think that?
    There are numerous scriptures that speak of it from their perspective such as

    Isaiah 11:12New King James Version (NKJV)


    12 He will set up a banner for the nations,
    And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
    And gather together the dispersed of Judah
    From the four corners of the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Dug into whether the earth is really flat or not?


    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/

    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/f...php?board=12.0


    People have been into space. How have they not discovered that the earth is flat?

    The most commonly accepted explanation of this is that the space agencies of the world are involved in a conspiracy faking space travel and exploration. This likely began during the Cold War's 'Space Race', in which the U.S.S.R and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the others supposed achievements. However, since the end of the Cold War, the conspiracy is most likely motivated by greed rather than political gains. Thus opening up a tremendous amounts of funds to embezzle as it only takes a fraction of the total budget to fake space travel.

    In light of the above, please note that we are not suggesting that space agencies are aware that the earth is flat and actively covering the fact up. They depict the earth as being round simply because that is what they expect it to be.

    There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory?

    In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered. Many of the videos posted here to "prove a round earth" by showing curvature will show no curvature or even convex curvature at parts. The sources are so inaccurate it's difficult to build an argument on them in either case. Furthermore, barrel distortion and other quirks of modern cameras will cause a picture to distort with little or no apparent altercation; especially without references within the picture. Photographs are also prone to distortion when taken through the bent glass of a pressurized cabin as well as atmospheric conditions on the outside. With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted.

    It's also worth noting that if a person were to look down at the earth from high above, they would expect to see a circular shape where the sun's spotlight was shining. This explains why high altitude photographs are generally curved to produce the illusion of a round horizon.
    Edited by Quest...Dug into the concept of either/or period. As I listened to this person I realized they are quite indoctrinated with this concept...I listened a lot and talked little only asking a question here and there such as 'Why would the 'powers that be' propagate such a global lie and how could they do it with so LITTLE resistance.' His response was essentially, 'Why would we be surprised at the idea of an almost global deception?' Can't say I could argue with that. The Bible tells us that unless those days were shortened even the elect would be deceived...

    Who pretty much controls the literature in schools even around the world, not just the US...and that literature is presented from the earliest age on..

    Anyone promoting an alternative perspective is viewed as a nut and mocked and ridiculed into silence..look at evolution? It's now taught as fact in your earliest children's books UNLESS the child is introduced to creation by the parents...

    I mean you read the 'society' stuff somewhat...

    Now I am not proposing this as fact but I am fascinated with the depth of their logic and reason..

    I only found one apologetic on the scriptural aspect where the spologetic took the topic seriously and at best they could only conclude that there is ROOM for this belief if one relies solely on the Bible because there are only two HEBREW words for 'round'. Both are used interchangeably...the strongest is the word for 'ball' which is only translated ONCE in the KJV as 'ball' and spoke clearly of a literal ball...but that same word is used in speaking of surrounding an enemy. So in the Hebrew language there was no clear distinction between circle and sphere...

    I found that this is a STRONG argument skeptics use to discredit the Bible which is the only reason there is any serious discussion on the internet about it; they try to prove the Bible does not teach a flat earth..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Isaiah 11:12 He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah From the four corners of the earth.

    Now don't start twisting it.
    There are quite a few others they use...are you convinced they are twisting it? (devil's advocate at this point)

    Go to your Strong's and keep two things in mind because I know you like to study words and their varied usage to get to the heart of a passage..

    1. When the scriptures were written the Hebrew language had no scientific terminology that compared to the advanced science of today.
    2. There are two Hebrew words and neither are conclusively 'sphere'..in fact from the quick search I did they are both used interchangeably.
    3. This I went to last night to disprove this and could not...Joshua spoke to the sun and the moon and commanded them to stand still...
    From the earliest passage on the sun there are MANY that depict the sun 'rising' 'setting' 'moving'.

    So in order to find a legitimate and conclusive argument I came out here..because I have not found one yet..and in order, IMHO, to do that I have to take a neutral position of possibility...that is the only way to be objective and I believe objectivity is the only way to clearly prove or disprove anything..

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