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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    We have a fundamental in scripture :

    Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

    That doesn't work with a marriage because the roles there are gender related, a husband cannot take on the role as wife or mother and vice versa. A church and ministry is spiritual in nature per default and gender issues arise mainly from issues that are human in nature, like Corinthian women going from one extreme of submission to men and to lording it over men, using their newfound freedom carnally.

    I find it quite interesting that arguably the most powerful precursor of the Pentecostal revival was a woman, Maria Woodworth-Etter. And that during a time when woman preachers were frowned upon in general. What was God thinking ?

    That scripture is not in respect to ordaining elders.... Paul wrote the above verse and then he wrote specifics to Timothy and Titus which makes a difference between male and female. Remember we are still are in a fallen world and gender does apply in the church as we are still human.

    God chose Paul to lay foundational doctrine not Maria Woodworth Etter even though she was used by God

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    Another interesting aspect is that many woman prefer a senior male pastor and have even told me that.
    They say they know there is a difference spiritually?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    That scripture is not in respect to ordaining elders.... Paul wrote the above verse and then he wrote specifics to Timothy and Titus which makes a difference between male and female. Remember we are still are in a fallen world and gender does apply in the church as we are still human.

    God chose Paul to lay foundational doctrine not Maria Woodworth Etter even though she was used by God
    A female travelling minister would have been impossible in many settings at that time due to cultural issues. Paul gave instructions about women to various churches but as you say they are related to carnal issues and not to ideal spiritual issues, which is why we cannot apply them indiscriminantly to our situation(s), that creates the kind of legalism that I talked about in the alcohol thread. We can however learn something from his various instructions if we figure out their proper context and background.

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    Stop adding to the scripture. I don't want to read your stuff. The Bible says man then it is man not husband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    We will never part as enemies...I like you too much

    but if you read carefully my comments I said there were dumb male preachers and never said women can't be ministers just that there are conditions to being an elder and a senior pastor

    btw I was liked a lot by the females I pastored because I treated everyone fairly
    Ok, maybe if you'd given as many examples of dumb male ministers, it wouldn't seem like you were prejudice against women ministers. It appears you were just picking on the women. Just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Another interesting aspect is that many woman prefer a senior male pastor and have even told me that.

    They say they know there is a difference spiritually?
    You had me until the highlighted portion above. My Bible says...

    “...there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians‬ *3:28‬ *

    The only differences between males and females is their physical makeup and general emotional DNA. Spiritually, there is no difference. God sees us all the same in the spiritual sense.

    “For there is no partiality with God.” Romans‬ *2:11‬
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    In Paul's day, the women were seated on one side of the church and the men on the other. Often times, the women would call out to the husband sitting on the opposite side with a question on what was being done or said. The reason Paul wrote that a woman was to be "silent in the church" was because they were disturbing the service by asking questions across the room. Hence, the notion was given for the women to ask questions when they got home. Of coarse, the women were free to prophesy and pray in the church (1 Cor 11:5).

    Even though God chose men to head up the 12 tribes of Israel, to be Jesus' 12 disciples, and to lead the early church, Mary Magdalene was the first woman to preach the good news (gospel) when she found that Jesus was no longer dead, but had indeed risen from the dead.

    Accordingly, I don't think it is God's best intention for a woman to hold the title of a senior pastor in the church, yet everyone should be involved in the work of God. I want to empathize that in no way is a woman inadequate to preach God's word. Many women have contributed in God's work as missionaries, Sunday school teachers, choir leaders, women ministries, and I might add, co-pastoring with their husband who may have planted a church. Regardless, we need women in ministry. God's work will be healthier, and greater results will be accrued as a result of out collective efforts to do what He desires. My hat is off to all the godly ladies associated with living faith forum.

    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    We have some outstanding women here on the forum. Maybe they are not to be preachers, I have my own view on this, but they sure can cook good. And the church always has a kitchen! I love the smell of BACON when I am preaching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    We have some outstanding women here on the forum. Maybe they are not to be preachers, I have my own view on this, but they sure can cook good. And the church always has a kitchen! I love the smell of BACON when I am preaching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    You had me until the highlighted portion above. My Bible says...

    “...there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians‬ *3:28‬ *

    The only differences between males and females is their physical makeup and general emotional DNA. Spiritually, there is no difference. God sees us all the same in the spiritual sense.


    “For there is no partiality with God.” Romans‬ *2:11‬
    Agreed!

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