Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
You should educate yourself concerning what God's Word teachings on this subject... Adam was the first man to be changed from life to death... Jesus was the first man to be changed from death to life. The wages of sin is death (being separated from God) according to what the Lord told Adam in the garden which would be the result of eating of the tree God told them not to eat from.
According to what God said in the book of Genesis, His definition of death is to be separated from Him.
Colossians 1:18
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
This could not be referring to just physical death because other people had died before Jesus did and were brought back to life...
Elisha resurrected the son of the Shunammite woman (2 Kings 4:35), Jesus resurrects the widow's son at Nain (Luke 7:13-15), Jesus raises Jairus' daughter from the dead (Matthew 9:25), Jesus raises Lazarus from the dead (John 11:43-44)... ans example references.
If Jesus only died physically then either Colossians 1:18 is a lie... or all these other scriptures references are lies... which is it?
Does God's Word contradict itself, or does it not? Or... do other scriptures references point to Jesus suffering something more than just physical death???
2 Corinthians 5:21
For He has made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.
Isaiah 53:8
By oppression and judgment He was taken away; and as for His generation, who considered
that He was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of My people
Isaiah 53:10-12
Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul (spirit is inside the soul) an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death (separation from God): and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Matthew 12:40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Psalms 86:13
For great is thy mercy toward Me: and thou hast delivered My soul (spirit is inside the soul) from the lowest hell.
Psalms 16:10
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
(Corruption = becoming defective in thinking, viewpoint, vision... Jesus never lost faith or knowledge of Who He was... nor did satan beat him up like Copeland teaches since satan is not in hell yet.)
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
WHY did Jesus have to be “justified in the spirit?” if He had not been separated from God which is the definition of ‘death‘ according to what God told Adam in the Garden of Eden would happen if he ate the tree of the knowledge of good and evil… in that day Adam surely died but not physically (Adam lived over 900 years) meaning God was referring to spiritual death which is being cut off from the life of God.
Since Adam became separated from the life of God, Jesus had to come and undo what Adam did, so Jesus had to have been separated from the life of God… so God could raise Him from the dead and justify Him from death so all that would be in Christ could also be raised from death.
In order to believe Jesus only suffered physically, one must ignore numerous scriptural references and count them to be lies... which is what cherry pickers do as they refuse to accept all of God's counsel.