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Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
Straw man is what people quote when they have no way of answering and have lost the argument
As I started something by asking a question then it can't be a straw man can it !!![/quote]
Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
Besides, if as you say God is doing everything... WHY did Jesus tell us to prwach the gospel to the whole world?
Sounds like the jesus you follow suffers from schizophrenia
No sounds like you don't understand nothing. No one ever ever ever said that God is doing everything (but unfortunately that truth has problems getting in to people's brains).
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Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
No, you need to acknowledge the difference between those that have been born again and those that have not according to scripture.
One is of the Lord, and the other is of the devil... one is of light, the other is of darkness.
<sarcasm>
Wow Fox Trot after 43 years 6 months and 18 days the light has finally come on!!! I would have never known that if you hadn't told me. </sarcasm>
Hey, do you know what a brick and a piece of 4 be 2 have in common?
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* Toxic Troll - Negative Nancy
do you know what a brick and a piece of 4 be 2 have in common?
Is that what you brush your tooth with?
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Banned
Originally Posted by
Farm Truck
Is that what you brush your tooth with?
I may be old but I still have more than one tooth.
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Senior Member
Originally Posted by
FunFromOz
Apparently.
But without God I'd be going there too.
It destroys your own argument
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Banned
Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
BTW according to your belief system....you left God in charge of your brothers soul and he still went to hell
Previously I responded to this with "apparently".
But two things:
1) What were the chances of a 57 year old who openly denied the existence of God, even proclaimingly it loudly to people as we buried our Mum 4 months previously, who told people to be quiet if they mentioned God, suddenly of his own volition deciding that he had been wrong all his life and change his mind and repent?
2) If one of the family is correct in what God showed them during the time he was in hospital then perhaps he wasn't lost, and if it is really God who saves us, not the other way around, then why can't God wait till the last second before saving someone?
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Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
It destroys your own argument
Nope, if God hadn't saved me in a tent back in 1973 but left it up to me I'd still be hell bound.
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Senior Member
Today I had an unexpected meeting with an pastor friend who now holds meeting in retirement homes.
He said he is leading more people to Jesus now more than all the years he was pastoring in a normal church setting.
Strange that God needs a person who actually brings the gospel to people....Why doesn't God just save them all on their death bed by his grace instead of someone taking the time to share Jesus and lead them to repentence.
The Holy Spirit is one that actually saves their soul but he uses people who share the gospel and faith is released for that person to accept Christ
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Originally Posted by
FunFromOz
Nope, if God hadn't saved me in a tent back in 1973 but left it up to me I'd still be hell bound.
God saved me by giving me the faith to believe and accept him. He provided everything and I accepted his drawing.
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Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
Strange that God needs a person who actually brings the gospel to people....Why doesn't God just save them all on their death bed by his grace instead of someone taking the time to share Jesus and lead them to repentence.
The Holy Spirit is one that actually saves their soul but he uses people who share the gospel and faith is released for that person to accept Christ
Not at all strange, preaching the Gospel is the way He said He'd do it. And somewhere He says we're saved for good works that He has for us to do. If no one's saved till the last moment not much work will get done will it?
Originally Posted by
Cardinal TT
He said he is leading more people to Jesus now more than all the years he was pastoring in a normal church setting.
One must look on the bright side and presume the best, but for numbers people like me it would be interesting to see how many were genuine conversions, how many were an emotional response, and how many were people having an each way bet.
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