Thread: What exactly does God want?

Originally Posted by GodismyJudge

Faith, Fatalism and the Great Cop-Out
By Joe Dallas Published on October 8, 2016
https://stream.org/faith-fatalism-an...great-cop-out/

Is Everything That Happens God's Will?

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Which raises the question of whether or not everything which happens is God's will. I don't for a nanosecond think it is.

Much of what happens, in fact, is the outcome of man's wrongdoing, and I think it's a holy cop-out to say "God allowed it so it must be what He wants." ...

"God allowed it so it must be what He wants."

Interesting. At the moment I'm trying to find the manual for my electric gate. Here's what part of my study currently looks like:



So there are really two questions to answer.

1) What does God ultimately want? and importantly

2) What's He willing to go through to get it?

Someone who in the space of one night will love him enough to give her life for him.

The above is a poetic answer. It's probably as far away from the answer you are looking for as is possible yet it is a Biblical answer because it has to do with the Bride.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Someone who in the space of one night will love him enough to give her life for him.

The above is a poetic answer. It's probably as far away from the answer you are looking for as is possible yet it is a Biblical answer because it has to do with the Bride.

I was thinking along similar lines and that what God ultimately wants can be described as His Bride which is comprised of billions of individual people spending eternity with Him in Heaven.

But what is He willing to pay for her? At least the death of His Son Jesus.

Nothing can compare to the death of Christ, so when I see "God allowed it so it must be what He wants" my thoughts are He may not "want" it, but its insignificant compared to the death of Jesus and could it be described as something He's willing to let happen to get what He really does want?

Always happy to see Joe Dallas quoted. I was his editor before I retired.

So there are really two questions to answer.

1) What does God ultimately want? and importantly

2) What's He willing to go through to get it?

The end goal of history is The Kingdom of God.

God helps those who help themselves. Is it Kingdom Come yet? You may have work to do?

You need to back up on the "God helps those who help themselves" I don't think you can support that Biblically.

God helps those who place their faith in HIM and obey Him...a LORD he has reserved the right to direct our choices and provide whatever we need to fulfill His directives...and relationally He wants us to do so in love and honor...

I believe prayer for others is very important..we often see others reaping a harvest of bad seeds and assume that is God's will but when we think of Abraham, surely Sodom and Gomorrah deserved the consequences of their seeds yet he 'prayed' if you will for their preservation..not because they deserved it, any more than any of us deserved His mercy and grace...I know this is a little rabbit trail but spiritual warfare for others is an essential factor in the Kingdom...so we should attune to His ill, His true will, and prayer in intercession accordingly and not just observe the fruit of others to determine...fruit of good seed or fruit of bad seed....hmmm...

Originally Posted by ManonFire63

The end goal of history is The Kingdom of God.

God helps those who help themselves. Is it Kingdom Come yet? You may have work to do?

"God helps those who respond" is better.

Originally Posted by ManonFire63

The end goal of history is The Kingdom of God.

God helps those who help themselves. Is it Kingdom Come yet? You may have work to do?

Pease explain this statement? "God helps those who help themselves. Is it Kingdom Come yet? You may have work to do?"

Are you referring to the passages of scripture that tell us to seek first His Kingdom? For some of us that phrase means something very different...