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    G-d according to a few groups. Jehovah according to others. The concept of adhering to a specific name and or a specific way has fostered a number of cults, historically.

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    When Jesus stood and read from the scroll Isaiah 61:1 would he have read that passage omitting what the translators clearly verify IS in the original script?

    It says ...The Spirit of Adnoay Yehovih is upon me because the Yehovah has anointed me...
    Then in Luke the word is kyrios. I understand that the transcripts available all contain kyrios, or at least that's what I read.


    KB historically do you know when the Jews STOPPED pronouncing the name out loud? When the Jewish priest read from the scrolls did they omit the name even thought it was recorded?

    That would certainly explain why the NT writings don't contain it although the OT did all the way through..so in the OT they did not stop writing His name?

    I read somewhere that they did for fear the scroll would touch the ground but seems to me it's in the KJV all the way through..

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    kyrios is the generic koine greek word for lord.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    kyrios is the generic koine greek word for lord.
    So Jesus read the scroll and altered the name of God clearly written by the prophet Isaiah with a generic word for 'lord'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    So Jesus read the scroll and altered the name of God clearly written by the prophet Isaiah with a generic word for 'lord'?
    No he spoke Arameic but the gospel author did which proves that its not THAT important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    No he spoke Arameic but the gospel author did which proves that its not THAT important.
    Sorry Colonel, you don't know that for sure...I personally highly doubt Jesus read from the Jewish scrolls in Aramaic.

    So LUKE misquoted Jesus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FresnoJoe View Post
    "And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father." Galatians 4:6
    Good scripture

    To a son or daughter......Father and Daddy is more intimate than actually calling the person by their real name

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    So He gave His name in the OT hundreds of: times and then suddenly it just became Father...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    So He gave His name in the OT hundreds of: times and then suddenly it just became Father...
    You missed the point.....a son or daughter say Father or Dad as it reveals relationship and intimacy...do your children call you by your first name


    If he gave his name in the OT then why are you trying to find it.....you can call him YHWH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    Sorry Colonel, you don't know that for sure...I personally highly doubt Jesus read from the Jewish scrolls in Aramaic.

    So LUKE misquoted Jesus?
    I know that Jesus didn't speak Greek to his audiences. Luke translated whatever Jesus said into Greek and chose the Greek word kyrios which he shouldn't have done if the exact name for God in Hebrew was very important.

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