Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12

Thread: A prophet dies for his errors-from:why a loving go allows judgement

  1. #1

    A prophet dies for his errors-from:why a loving go allows judgement

    A Prophet's Immoral Wedding Ceremony, Proud Boast of Virility & Tragic Judgment

    A popular and successful Word of Faith Prophet and his wife performed an immoral wedding ceremony, marrying a Pastor to that Pastor's daughter-in-law. This was done in spite of the Pastor's son's (and his siblings') pleas for the Prophet to not cooperate with their father in such a bizarre, ungodly plan. While his son was away serving his country the Pastor encouraged his daughter-in-law and young grandchild to move in with him in order for her to help care for his dying wife. Once the Pastor's ailing wife died, he convinced his daughter-in-law to divorce her husband (his son) and marry him. She agreed.

    The Pastor's congregation was so outraged by the immorality of the situation, the wedding had to be moved out of state to the Prophet's Church in California.

    The Prophet and his wife later lost many of their own church members upon their congregation's realization of what they had done by performing the immoral ceremony.



    You will later read of this same Prophet boasting in a Minister's Conference of his ability to sexually satisfy his wife who was twenty years his junior.

    As Spirit-filled Believers who claim knowledge of God's Word and His Spirit, this is not the type of brush we want to be painting ourselves with.

    As Dr. Billy Graham indicated, these behaviors lack reverence, are unacceptable in spiritual leadership and have further served to bring Christian America to judgment.



    Sadly, the above-mentioned errant Prophet later lost his life when his jet fell from the sky as he traveled from one meeting to another. Although his tragic, premature death was celebrated as a glorious home-going, it was no such thing. It was the allowed judgment of God on a fallen Prophet who had difficulty always obeying God, difficulty walking in love towards his fellowman and great difficulty repenting immediately when he had done something wrong. I, myself, was used of God to bring him words of correction in these areas to no avail. He had also developed a reputation amongst his fellow Ministers of having become "money-minded."



    To further compound his problem with disobedience, this man also frequently allowed his spouse to control his Prophet's Ministry, even to the point of allowing her to override his Holy Spirit directed decisions. The Lord Jesus Christ Himself sent an angel to tell Dr. Kenneth E. Hagin, concerning those who would try to control his Prophet's Ministry, that He did not want him to be controlled by anyone else. Jesus said He would speak to and direct Prophet Hagin personally in his Ministry. He told Prophet Hagin that he was to be the head of his own Ministry and not someone else, regardless of who it may be. See the book "I Believe in Visions" page 125.

    Our Benevolent Father has a caring history of allowing judgment to finally come upon unrepentant fallen ministers who refuse to listen to His repeated warnings. This is true with Prophets, in particular, once He determines they are doing more harm than good to the Body. He will remove their candlestick, stripping them of what power they have left. (Revelation 2:5) Depending on the severity of the situation, such allowed judgment can sometimes include premature death. (1 Corinthians 5:2-5) Jesus also explained this to Prophet Kenneth E. Hagin during a personal visitation after Prophet Hagin himself had to be judged for disobedience. See the book "I Believe in Visions" by Dr. Kenneth E. Hagin, page 96.

    Why a Loving God Allows Judgment

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to LionHeart For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020)

  3. #2
    I was a follower of this prophet and the Lord told me to back away from him not knowing this stuff was happening.... His wife continues on with their ministry and I feel very uncomfortable with her too.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to LionHeart For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020)

  5. #3
    Administrator fuego's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    16,273
    Thanked: 14130
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by LionHeart View Post
    I was a follower of this prophet and the Lord told me to back away from him not knowing this stuff was happening.... His wife continues on with their ministry and I feel very uncomfortable with her too.
    I used to really like Ed Dufresne and saw him in person a few times at small churches. I didn't know about that marriage though. What are wrong with these people?

    I remember when Clarence McClendon divorced his wife and married his younger 'soul mate'. TBN didn't skip a beat with having him back on the program. Mind boggling.

    Having said that, I can't say the plane crash was the judgement of God or not.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to fuego For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020)

  7. #4
    Senior Member Cardinal TT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    7,640
    Thanked: 5995
    Blog Entries
    2
    The minister that betrayed his son in the OP is a disgrace and should have been thrown out of the ministry.
    I would even be concerned for his salvation if he does not repent of the betrayal of his son, stealing his wife and adultery.

    How could any minister marry and support this wilful adulterous pastor - even unsaved would be repulsed by these actions

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Cardinal TT For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020), Romans828 (11-02-2020)

  9. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I used to really like Ed Dufresne and saw him in person a few times at small churches. I didn't know about that marriage though. What are wrong with these people?

    I remember when Clarence McClendon divorced his wife and married his younger 'soul mate'. TBN didn't skip a beat with having him back on the program. Mind boggling.

    Having said that, I can't say the plane crash was the judgement of God or not.
    I was supernaturally led to follow him after he gave me a book in a dream and said ,"it is my life story." The next day I was in a Christian bookstore and actually saw the book on a shelf in the Catholic section of the store. But about two years before his death I was told to move away from following him. I had no idea he was making unwise choices in ministry. There were several people who warned him he was going to die and he blew it off and he laughed about it.

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to LionHeart For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020), fuego (11-02-2020)

  11. #6
    Administrator fuego's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    16,273
    Thanked: 14130
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by LionHeart View Post
    I was supernaturally led to follow him after he gave me a book in a dream and said ,"it is my life story." The next day I was in a Christian bookstore and actually saw the book on a shelf in the Catholic section of the store. But about two years before his death I was told to move away from following him. I had no idea he was making unwise choices in ministry. There were several people who warned him he was going to die and he blew it off and he laughed about it.
    I remember him telling how when he first started, he would just get people together in his living room and they would listen to a KC tape and then he would pray for them after it was over.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to fuego For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020)

  13. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I remember him telling how when he first started, he would just get people together in his living room and they would listen to a KC tape and then he would pray for them after it was over.
    I seem to remember reading that he also served by cleaning the bathrooms for a quite awhile at the Church that he (first?) attended.




    .
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to GodismyJudge For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020)

  15. #8
    Administrator fuego's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    16,273
    Thanked: 14130
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    I seem to remember reading that he also served by cleaning the bathrooms for a quite awhile at the Church that he (first?) attended.
    .
    Yep. I remember that too. I think it was on a tape of his I him talking about getting his start.

  16. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to fuego For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020), GodismyJudge (11-02-2020)

  17. #9
    He was a humble man at the start. It's sad he did not finish that way. Brother Hagin always warned ministers to not follow any other minister too closely because they could make the same mistakes that their mentors did.

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to LionHeart For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020)

  19. #10
    Senior Member Smitty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Location
    Everett, Washington
    Posts
    1,629
    Thanked: 1786
    Blog Entries
    1
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    The minister that betrayed his son in the OP is a disgrace and should have been thrown out of the ministry.
    I would even be concerned for his salvation if he does not repent of the betrayal of his son, stealing his wife and adultery.

    How could any minister marry and support this willful adulterous pastor - even unsaved would be repulsed by these actions
    That's strikingly similar to the immorality committed in the Corinthian church. Being an ordained minster myself affiliated with Victory New Testament Fellowship Int., In order to hold credentials with them, you are required not to officiate a same sex marriage. And I would never in my life marry two men or two women (or any other type of immoral union as described in this thread). Although the marriage mentioned in the OP was not same sex, it still was a sinful and immoral union between two individuals in my opinion. I don't believe God approved of it either. I was in a Ed Dufresne meeting 30 years ago at CFC, Casey Treats church. There were people there who received gold filings in their teeth as he was ministering. This is the first time I've heard of this incident. I am shocked that Ed would do this. I did not even know he was killed in that plane crash. Doesn't anyone have the fear of God anymore? Especially ministers who have been in ministry for decades?
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

  20. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Smitty For This Useful Post:

    Ezekiel 33 (11-04-2020), fuego (11-03-2020)

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •