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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    This is just my opinion, and I am by no means an authority on the subject but I think the bloodline Jesus came from is related to His lineal sequence of a pure genealogy.

    Satan knew if he could corrupt the lineal genealogy passed down through the centuries, Jesus would not be born from a pure bloodline.

    This leads me to ask the question: Where did the giants (Nephilim) come from?

    The only logical conclusion that I can come up with is satan was bent on corrupting the genealogical seed from which Jesus descended from. If the devil could corrupt the bloodline, the genealogy of the seed would be tinted.

    So, it makes sense to me that satan was behind the creation of the "giants" by commissioning fallen angels to copulate with women to "corrupt the seed" by bringing into existence an angel-human hybrid type of corrupt being "Nephilim" in hopes of corrupting the genealogy seed of which Jesus would be born from.

    That is why I believe God produced a "divine genocide" through the flood in order to eradicate the "corrupt seed" and start over with Noah.

    Second Peter 2:4 mentions that these fallen angels were sent to the deepest darkness (Tartarus) in chains to be kept until judgment.

    Although Enoch's book is not included in the cannon of Scripture, Jude quotes directly from 1 Enoch 1:9 in his writing in Jude 14-15.

    And it is also interesting to note what Enoch recorded in his writing in 1 Enoch 7:2;

    "And when the angels, the sons of heaven, beheld them,
    they became enamored of them, saying to each other,
    Come, let us select for ourselves wives from the progeny of men,
    and let us beget children."


    I've been told I had greatly missed it when I mentioned this stuff before (not necessarily here) but like I said, this is just my opinion.
    I am with you Smitty. Genesis 6 accredits giants to fallen angels coming in to the daughters of men. They married them. They consummated those marriages.

    Therefore, in light of scripture, Cain would have been a giant if this serpent seed doctrine were true. Scripture does not bare this out.

    Scripture makes it clear that angels can appear as men. The scripture used to say that they cannot procreate does not say that they cannot. It says that they do not. Those who did are in chains in the lowest depths of Hell waiting for judgement according to Peter.




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    Just saying:
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
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    Your chart has one thing correct. The Angels in heaven are not married. It is fallen angels who left their proper abode and are now chained until the day that God throws them into the lake of fire with the chief fallen angel, satan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    Your chart has one thing correct. The Angels in heaven are not married. It is fallen angels who left their proper abode and are now chained until the day that God throws them into the lake of fire with the chief fallen angel, satan.
    I tend to think there's something to this. I'm not 100% sure, but then again, I think a lot of history has been either hidden from us on purpose, or maybe God doesn't want us to know?

    The only thing though, the serpent seed believers use this to justify their teachings. That is that Satan was a fallen angel and was able to procreate like others. But my question is, why did he just stop with Eve if he's able to bear offspring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    Your chart has one thing correct. The Angels in heaven are not married. It is fallen angels who left their proper abode and are now chained until the day that God throws them into the lake of fire with the chief fallen angel, satan.
    Jude says, "Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."

    If fallen angels are chained then who are the demons?

    As Pentecali says, "a lot . . . has been either hidden from us on purpose, or maybe God doesn't want us to know"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Jude says, "Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."

    If fallen angels are chained then who are the demons?

    As Pentecali says, "a lot . . . has been either hidden from us on purpose, or maybe God doesn't want us to know"
    Demons and fallen angels aren't the same. There are different ranks, principalities and powers. More than likely the demons came from the dead tribes of giants from Genesis 6. Best as we can tell, their spirits didn't come from God. They were evil. You don't really see demons mentioned much in the OT. When Jesus hit the scene, they were wreaking havoc on mankind.

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    This major verse suggests that all powers, which includes angels and demons, were originally created by God.

    Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

    Which excludes the possibility that demons are the spirits of deceased beings that were created by fallen angels.

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    Interesting story about Branham...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    This major verse suggests that all powers, which includes angels and demons, were originally created by God.

    Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

    Which excludes the possibility that demons are the spirits of deceased beings that were created by fallen angels.
    That is a great point. Just thinking out loud for the sake of furthering the discussion. Well, maybe they are spirits of fallen cherabim or seraphim or some other created being who rebelled and were cast out of heaven. Where do you all think they came from?

    Were they maybe perverted spirits from the giants? Were these spirits somehow able to remain on the earth for all these years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    That is a great point. Just thinking out loud for the sake of furthering the discussion. Well, maybe they are spirits of fallen cherabim or seraphim or some other created being who rebelled and were cast out of heaven. Where do you all think they came from?

    Were they maybe perverted spirits from the giants? Were these spirits somehow able to remain on the earth for all these years?
    If they are here then they were originally created good. They aren't angels and the NT doesn't differentiate between types of angels, only their status as either fallen or not. Heb 9:5 references cherubim statues from the tabernacle. Seraphim are only mentioned in Isa 6 in the entire Bible. What demons are ? If they were created good and they frequently manifest as various types of animal-like beings who prefer regions (see the gospel account from Gadarene) then maybe they once inhabited the Earth and were spiritual beings. When ? Who knows. The gap theory comes to mind.

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