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    So, on the old forum they did not believe this was for Christians today???

    In other words, they did not know what was in the Bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    i remember commenting on this on the old forum... i was burned at the stake 4 my comment... fuego bless his heart lite the proverbial match to the kindling... the smell of wet fur burning was overwhelming to say the least...
    Well if I lit the match then please re-comment. You have me curious now. :)

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    Excerpt from "Tongues: Beyond the Upper Room" by Kenneth E. Hagin:

    ...Some have walked out into that realm of prayer only far enough to get their feet wet. Like children wading in the water, they talk about what they experienced, saying, "That was so wonderful! It was the ultimate in praying in the Spirit!" But in reality, their experience in prayer was barely beginning!

    These people have only touched the realm of the Spirit. They need to wade on out into the deep waters of the Spirit until it isn't only knee deep or loin deep, but so deep they can't possibly touch the ocean bottom! Then they can swim on out and enjoy the fullness of what God has for them in prayer (see Ezekiel 47).

    However, it is important to understand that these things will not always come easy. For one thing, the flesh will do everything possible to hold us back. That's the reason the Word of God teaches us to crucify the flesh. The mind will also hold us back, trying to make us focus on the realm of the physical senses and what can be seen. That's one reason God tells us to get our minds renewed with His Word (Rom. 12:1-2). Once our minds are renewed, we'll be able to move further into the realm of His Spirit through prayer.

    But as more and more of us respond to God's call to pray, there will begin to be greater and greater manifestations of His power and glory on this earth. The manifestation and demonstration of God's Spirit will become as common and as real as everyday natural things are to us. This is what our hearts have longed for and what intercessors have prayed for so many years.

    God wants us to move out further in the Spirit and learn how to maneuver in that great realm of prayer. As we are faithful to obey His call to pray, the day will come when we move beyond the edge of space - further on out into the Spirit - and reach the fullness of God's glory!

    I'll tell you this much: Jesus is coming. There is no use splitting hairs about that truth, because it will happen, whether you believe it or not! So let us commit ourselves to praying in the Spirit so a great harvest of souls can be reaped in these last days. People are dying, and the end is coming. The end of all things is at hand, and what we do, we must do quickly.

    The Lord is calling us to prayer, and I, for one, am determined to answer that call.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Prayer from "Tongues: Beyond the Upper Room" by Kenneth E. Hagin

    Kenneth E. Hagin's Prayer on Behalf of the Church

    Forgive us, O Lord. We've fallen and come so far short of the prayer life You intended us to have. We have settled for such a low grade of fellowship with You, until the things of the Spirit are so unreal to us, while mental and physical things are so very real and dominate us.

    May we do just what the Bible commands us to do: Present our bodies a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable unto You, which is our reasonable service. And may we not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our minds-until the things of the Spirit become more real to us, and until Thou, O Father, become just as real in our spirits as the clothes we wear and the automobiles we drive.

    Then we will move out into the realm of the Spirit to pray, for Thou art the Father of all spirits-but especially of our spirits, for we have been born again and are born of You. And Thou hast given to us a means of supernatural communication whereby our spirits can be in direct contact with the Father of spirits, for as Paul said, "If I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth."

    But we have taken so little advantage of this means of prayer, and You have not been able to do what You wanted to do with us, and for us, and in us, and through us in the past. We weren't ready. We weren't in place.

    Now we are ready to some extent, and You are able to move us forward. But may we not stop here, Lord. May we not be satisfied. May we be like Smith Wigglesworth of old who said, "I am satisfied only with the dissatisfaction that has to be satisfied again and again."

    May we move on from glory to glory. May we understand what You're saying about these last days. May we, through intercession and travail, give birth to that wave and to that move of God in the earth that You desire. May we understand what You are saying to our spirits.

    We sense the urgency of it. We sense the need of it. We sense the necessity of it.

    May we respond unto it, O God, that Your holy will may be wrought in this hour and that we may rise up in faith and, in the power of the Spirit, be the giants in the earth You always intended us to be.

    May we be sensitive to the Spirit. May we be sensitive to His touch when He arrests our attention. May we know what He wants. May we respond to His prompting that He may manifest Himself through us and demonstrate Himself among us through signs and wonders and through diverse miracles and distributions of the Holy Ghost.

    May we respond in the crisis of the hour and in the crisis of the day. And so shall we be ready for whatever arises. We will flow with the Spirit, and out of our innermost being shall flow rivers of living water. Then the dry places shall spring forth in beauty, and those who are thirsty shall find water to drink. The spiritually dead shall be raised and revived, and life shall be made manifest everywhere. And we shall rejoice and be glad and declare that You have done it. All praise and honor and glory will be given unto You, for You deserve it and You are worthy.

    May we be so dead to the flesh, so dead to selfishness, but so yielded unto the Spirit as we do the works of righteousness and perform the works of God so that the acts of God are made manifest in us. For we are in the end times. We face the last days when armies shall gather at Armageddon.

    That day will come. But there will also come a sweeping harvest that sweeps across the world and around the globe because we prayed - because we dared to stand in that place of prayer. We dared to stand in the gap, to make up the hedge, and to intercede for the land. Thus, the work of God shall be accomplished, and that which the Lord desires for the last days shall come to pass. And the harvest shall be reaped, the angels shall rejoice, men shall be blessed, and the glory of the Lord shall shine round about us brighter than the noonday sun. In the Name of Jesus, amen.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Sometimes, I bypass the tongues and just prophesy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    So, on the old forum they did not believe this was for Christians today???

    In other words, they did not know what was in the Bible?
    I don't recall any cessationists on any of these forums. I've been here since '06.



    Question re FT's post, thanked by Fuego. Are you saying that Satan is omniscient and can hear the prayers of all Christians who are not speaking in tongues? Scripture please.

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    I think aphobos was maybe a cessationist. I'm not sure what Webershome is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    I don't recall any cessationists on any of these forums. I've been here since '06.



    Question re FT's post, thanked by Fuego. Are you saying that Satan is omniscient and can hear the prayers of all Christians who are not speaking in tongues? Scripture please.
    I can't remember who specifically but we have had cessationists here. Others are 'practical' cessationists even though they wouldn't come out and say the gifts have passed away.

    I believe he was just using satan as a generic for devils. I don't believe FT believes satan is onmiscient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I can't remember who specifically but we have had cessationists here. Others are 'practical' cessationists even though they wouldn't come out and say the gifts have passed away.

    I believe he was just using satan as a generic for devils. I don't believe FT believes satan is onmiscient.
    Do devils hear our prayers? This is teaching I am not familiar with.

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    The first adam was natural, the second spiritual... since everything produces after it's own kind, the authority adam was given has been assume by satan which is evident seeing how badly this natural (the world) realm is screwed up.

    It's obvious that satan has authority in the worldly system in which we live so why would he not be able to observe humans for several thousand years and catch on to the languages man speaks?

    We do see in Jesus' experience with satan that the devil understands scripture... so why would he not understand your payers in english?

    No, he is not everywhere at once, but we know from scripture that people who are used of the Lord are targeted by satan in an attempt to minimize their effectiveness so it's obvious that he knows something is going on otherwise he would not have targeted Jesus, the Apostle Paul, as well as others.

    I think it would be naive to believe satan cannot observe english speaking people for however long english as been around (I'm assuming you are an english speaking person) and learn to understand what english means just solely based on experience observing... and we know he knows scripture based on Jesus' experience with the nutjob.

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