(I put this here lest it gets lost in another thread that people had stopped reading.)
Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it. (Prov 22:6)
Looking at what's been going on lately, seeing someone going to a rally wanting to talk "facts" to people and they don't want to hear them, I can understand it a bit better now.
As I mentioned elsewhere (
link) I started reading this again:
Five people present their view and then the other four give a rebuttal. So I read the first chapter and then we get to the first rebuttal where there are statement like, that only refers to the apostles; being given to Jesus by the Father doesn't assure salvation; that's a call to service not salvation; etc. Given I don't agree with that it's actually hard, uncomfortable even, to read. But read it I must to understand where others are coming from.
When speaking on "Objections to Unconditional Election" the writer, for some reason, starts thus:
Wesley is not unique here, as someone else said, and I've seen the sentiment in a number of places, "The most despised, the most rejected ... doctrine in the Bible is election" (
The despised and rejected doctrine of election. | Victory Christian Fellowship Rock Springs)
But why I mention that is what Wesley has done here is something I've seen a couple of times; from a "minister" in my denomination; from a well known person from the early 19th century; and here from Wesley. He accepted being a minister in a church yet openly disbelieved at least one of the doctrines of that church.
That doesn't sit well with me. How about you?