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    Quotes from Jeremiah

    How many times have you heard:

    For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the Lord, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.

    I suspect most would know what book this comes from if not also the chapter and verse.

    But I've never heard quoted:

    For I have set My face against this city for harm and not for good," declares the Lord. "It will be given into the hand of the king of Babylon and he will burn it with fire."

    or

    6 For thus says the Lord concerning the house of the king of Judah:
    "You are like Gilead to Me,
    Like the summit of Lebanon;
    Yet most assuredly I will make you like a wilderness,
    Like cities which are not inhabited.
    7 "For I will set apart destroyers against you,
    Each with his weapons;
    And they will cut down your choicest cedars
    And throw them on the fire.

    8 "Many nations will pass by this city; and they will say to one another, 'Why has the Lord done thus to this great city?'

    I wonder why not?

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    Context, context, context! Stirring the pot, are you?


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    I go beyond the "why" and try to grasp the "hope" promise. No matter how bad it gets here on this planet in our little lives, we have Heaven at the end. Great is our reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    How many times have you heard:

    For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the Lord, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.

    I suspect most would know what book this comes from if not also the chapter and verse.

    But I've never heard quoted:

    For I have set My face against this city for harm and not for good," declares the Lord. "It will be given into the hand of the king of Babylon and he will burn it with fire."

    or

    6 For thus says the Lord concerning the house of the king of Judah:
    "You are like Gilead to Me,
    Like the summit of Lebanon;
    Yet most assuredly I will make you like a wilderness,
    Like cities which are not inhabited.
    7 "For I will set apart destroyers against you,
    Each with his weapons;
    And they will cut down your choicest cedars
    And throw them on the fire.

    8 "Many nations will pass by this city; and they will say to one another, 'Why has the Lord done thus to this great city?'

    I wonder why not?
    Because people would like to get in line with what it takes for the good promises to come to pass. The content of the curses isn't that interesting, how to get away from them is more interesting. Do you teach people to meditate on the curses found in Deuteronomy 28 ? Do you do so yourself ? Are you interested in seeing those curses come to pass in your own life ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    Context, context, context! Stirring the pot, are you?

    Exactly. The first verse, the one everyone knows, is pretty much always taken out of context.

    (Is that pot stirring?)

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    (Is that pot stirring?)
    I guess I'm the pot stirrer here. I agree with what FireBrand said about grasping the hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Because people would like to get in line with what it takes for the good promises to come to pass. The content of the curses isn't that interesting, how to get away from them is more interesting. Do you teach people to meditate on the curses found in Deuteronomy 28 ? Do you do so yourself ? Are you interested in seeing those curses come to pass in your own life ?
    No they certainly aren't interesting Colonel, but I saw something recently suggesting that 1/2 of the Bible is "negative" so we can't ignore it.

    The quotes I've given are punishments for wrong doing. People need to understand that some things are wrong and we get punished for them. And the ultimate punishment is hell.

    How else can we explain the crucifixion and the Gospel?

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    Your posts in this thread would be somewhat meaningful on a forum full of borderline Christian liberals but not here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Your posts in this thread would be somewhat meaningful on a forum full of borderline Christian liberals but not here.
    "borderline Christian liberals", never got that one before.

    Read a bit more of Jeremiah today and we see "A death sentence for this man! For he has prophesied against this city as you have heard in your hearing." (J 26:11)

    Why did they say that? Because Jeremiah obeyed God when God said say to them, 'Thus says the Lord, "If you will not listen to Me, to walk in My law which I have set before you, to listen to the words of My servants the prophets, whom I have been sending to you again and again, but you have not listened; then I will make this house like Shiloh, and this city I will make a curse to all the nations of the earth."'" (J 26:4-6)

    Man hasn't changed has he? He still wants to hear the prophets saying "good things", like God wants you to be healthy, and wealthy, and to "eat, drink and be merry". Sinners don't want to hear true prophets like Jeremiah's tell the truth like, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked" (J 17:9 KJV)

    A post from Babylon Bee in the last 24 hours says satirically "Church To Cease All References To God In Effort To Boost Attendance", but if you follow their Facebook Link you'll see that so many people recognise this as being close to the truth at times.

    One of the interesting comments on Facebook is:
    The last church I went to had a good Friday service that was only for believers and church members. He spent 90 minutes hammering the congregation for being hypocrites, being selfish and driving out new members, not behaving in a Godly manner. It was incredible, and not enough pastors have the guts to do stuff like that.

    sadly the current one reply is:
    ah the medieval church of flagilisum, all the sack cloth and ashes you can carry.

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