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    Several gospels tell the same story :

    Mark 6:5 Now He could do no mighty work there, except that He laid His hands on a few sick people and healed them.
    Yep, which is why we need to be Bible students.

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    Interestingly the NKJV Cross references Matt 13:58 and Mark 6:5 but the NASB and NIV don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Interestingly the NKJV Cross references Matt 13:58 and Mark 6:5 but the NASB and NIV don't.
    That's okay, FFO. Here's another verse to consider :

    Luke 5:17 Now it happened on a certain day, as He was teaching, that there were Pharisees and teachers of the law sitting by, who had come out of every town of Galilee, Judea, and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was present to heal them.

    Which means that that power wasn't there equally at all times. Nor was it with Paul, people with worse problems than his coworkers had been healed at times previously.

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    The scriptures reveal that there are specific times when Gods miraculous power is in greater manifestation as we see in early chapters of Acts and then in specific times of Paul's ministry.

    God can heal at any time but even the apostles did not display God's power at will as there are other factors also at work.

    Modern healing ministries can preach God's will to heal the sick and show how people can have expectant faith but I'm not aware they are guaranteeing every sick person will be healed automatically.

    If there is a minister proclaiming every person will be healed 100% I would like to see who they are

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    Modern healing ministries can preach God's will to heal the sick and show how people can have expectant faith but I'm not aware they are guaranteeing every sick person will be healed automatically.
    Do we have an example of this happening in Scripture? I.E. People actually preaching God's will to heal the sick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    The scriptures reveal that there are specific times when Gods miraculous power is in greater manifestation as we see in early chapters of Acts and then in specific times of Paul's ministry.

    God can heal at any time but even the apostles did not display God's power at will as there are other factors also at work.

    Modern healing ministries can preach God's will to heal the sick and show how people can have expectant faith but I'm not aware they are guaranteeing every sick person will be healed automatically.

    If there is a minister proclaiming every person will be healed 100% I would like to see who they are
    Nothing trumps the person's own faith for healing if it is indeed there, as can be seen in Acts 14. Then there are many factors. The minister's faith, his or her ability to function as a conduit for God's power, the spiritual atmosphere (which was at a rock bottom when Jesus was arrested as he said himself). Prayer also releases the power of God in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Do we have an example of this happening in Scripture? I.E. People actually preaching God's will to heal the sick?
    Acts 10:36 The word which God sent to the children of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ—He is Lord of all—
    37 that word you know, which was proclaimed throughout all Judea, and began from Galilee after the baptism which John preached:
    38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Do we have an example of this happening in Scripture? I.E. People actually preaching God's will to heal the sick?
    Acts 14. Paul preached the gospel and as a result a lame man had faith to be healed.

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    Do we have an example of this happening in Scripture? I.E. People actually preaching God's will to heal the sick?
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    Acts 14. Paul preached the gospel and as a result a lame man had faith to be healed.
    As far as I can tell Paul is preaching the Gospel, i.e. repent and be saved. Acts 14:6-10 says:

    they became aware of it and fled to the cities of Lycaonia, Lystra and Derbe, and the surrounding region; and there they continued to preach the gospel.


    At Lystra a man was sitting who had no strength in his feet, lame from his mother's womb, who had never walked. This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, who, when he had fixed his gaze on him and had seen that he had faith to be made well, said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet."

    Yes the man is healed, but it says Paul is preaching the gospel does it not, not a "healing message"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    As far as I can tell Paul is preaching the Gospel, i.e. repent and be saved. Acts 14:6-10 says:

    they became aware of it and fled to the cities of Lycaonia, Lystra and Derbe, and the surrounding region; and there they continued to preach the gospel.


    At Lystra a man was sitting who had no strength in his feet, lame from his mother's womb, who had never walked. This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, who, when he had fixed his gaze on him and had seen that he had faith to be made well, said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet."

    Yes the man is healed, but it says Paul is preaching the gospel does it not, not a "healing message"?
    Faith comes from hearing God's Word. (Rom. 10:17) If Paul had been preaching "repent of your sins" that wouldn't have brought the man faith for healing. Paul was probably preaching from Isaiah 53:4,5 about Jesus providing healing for us, in addition to paying for our sins. When the man heard that he got excited, and Paul told him how to act on his faith and activate his healing.

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