What do you think of this list, and why?
...FOF.
What do you think of this list, and why?
...FOF.
Almost all of the ones to the left are Calvinists and I presume anti-Charismatics though I haven't checked all of them. All of the ones to the right are non-Calvinists and Charismatics.
Quest (04-22-2020)
Ezekiel 33 (04-20-2020)
I think whomever made the lists needs to fast and pray.
No one preacher/teacher has everything 100% correct 100% of the time (on either of the lists) but that doesn't necessarily make them a false teacher.
But I would like to say that while John MacArthur may be able to lead someone to Christ, his teaching on "Strange Fire" is down right heresy hunting.
And I agree with colonel ... the left side is Calvanist/Cessationist (not that I recognize all the names) and the right list are teachers/preachers who teach the need for Holy Spirit Baptism and the 5 fold ministry OF the Holy Spirit.
Ezekiel 33 (04-20-2020), Quest (04-22-2020), Smitty (04-19-2020)
I tend to be careful when judging others in ministry.
Of coarse, a ministers teaching if "does not seem right" must be judged in the light of God's word.
Teachings of the cults (JW's, Mormon's, etc.) are not hard to figure out that what they teach is false teaching and doctrine.
The list in the OP is made up of different men of what they believe according to their denomination, tradition, and tenants of belief's.
Some may believe healing is not for today, while others say God still heals today.
Some believe the HS filling with the evidence of speaking with other tongues while others believe it passed away with the apostles.
And the list "for or against" could go on and on.
But it seems to me that the ministers on the list could or do agree on the essential doctrine of the Christian faith.
Such as:
The Cannon of the Scripture.
The Triunity of God (minus TD Jakes who is a "oneness").
Creation.
The Deity of Christ.
The Deity of the Holy Spirit.
Satan and the original fall.
Salvation.
The fruit of the Spirit.
The Lord's supper.
Heaven and hell.
And I could list more, but for time sake, I will stop here.
The point is, these men listed most likely all agree on the fundamentals of the Christian faith and are orthodox, or basically all hold to sound Biblical doctrine.
Therefore, they are my brothers in Christ even though I lean to a Pentecostal view, and some of them do not.
Scripture says for each one of us as believers to walk out our own salvation in the fear of the Lord because we will all stand before Him alone, and give an account of our life at the bema seat of Christ. Everyone on the list has an appointment with Jesus at the throne. They will give an account of their Christian lives to Him.
The last thing I need to hear from the Lord is why were you so busy "picking apart" other ministers, when you could have concentrated more on serving Me, and fulfilling My plan for your life on earth. So, unless a minister is preaching out right heresy and false doctrine/teaching, I don't have the time to nit-pick at them as to how they should fit in my mold of how to conduct their ministry. God is the final authority, and I'm sure he can deal with them or any minister as He see's fit.
If you put God First, you have Him at Last.
Ezekiel 33 (04-20-2020), Quest (04-22-2020)
That group on the left are Calvinists (except Tozer). The ones on the right are a mix of different beliefs and mostly lean toward Arminianism.
Last edited by Nikos; 04-20-2020 at 06:00 PM.
Ezekiel 33 (04-20-2020), Quest (04-22-2020)
Even though I am definitely spirit filled Pentecostal and lean to the right, I feel we have to be honest about our own when they are wrong.
There's one in particular here that's concerning and that's Brian Carns (bottom right)who is most definitely a false prophet. He was busted for pretending he was giving a word from the Lord while actually quoting word for word, verbatim from a psychic. It was embarrassing but factual. Every major ministry he was associated with immediately closed their doors on him.
Last edited by Pentecali; 04-20-2020 at 10:32 AM.
Ezekiel 33 (04-20-2020)
The "list" looks more like extremism. Like AJ said above, no one has perfect theology. The gamut runs from pablum preachers to false teachers but most if not all of the above fall somewhere in between, imperfect but not useless/false.
A.J. (04-20-2020), Ezekiel 33 (04-20-2020)