Thread: Healing - Is it wrong to go to a doctor?

Originally Posted by Farm Truck

No, because... Jesus provided a way for me to not need the arm of the flesh to stay healthy.

Jesus took my sickness and disease upon Himself so I cannot be forced to have it. The devil has tried, but he has failed.






God specifically said "By the stripes of Jesus, we HAVE BEEN HEALED"... so, as far as God is concerned you have been healed. Problem is, based on your question... you don't know this. If you did, you would not even think of asking this question because you would have already been convinced that God's promises are in fact true.

Why not be like Abraham and hope against hope being convinced that God is able to keep that which He has promised?

God has made a way for us to not get sick. Sure, getting healed is good.... not getting sick at all if even better!

Just because some Christians don't walk in health does not mean God has not provided a way for us to stay healthy... no more than saying God has not provided salvation because some people go to hell when they die.

So, a question for you... please explain to me why I cannot stand on the following scriptures acting and living as though God cannot lie... and not be able to expect God to perform what He has promised???


Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you.

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

Proverbs 4:20-23
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

James 5:15
The prayer of faith shall save the sick (from being sick!)

Exodus 23:24-26
You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images.
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.



The problem with many Christians is that they see someone else get sick and automatically think they too cannot escape getting sick.

I don't walk by sight... I go forward as though God said what He meant and meant what He said because He says He cannot lie.

I have found the Lord to be very, very faithful to watch over His Word and perform it... but only if I act as though He is not a liar which is of course why He cannot force healing/health on people, because they are not acting as though He cannot lie.

While living in a world full of darkness, sin, sickness, death, etc, etc... why would I not want to accept God's promises as absolute truth?

Originally Posted by LionHeart

That was a very helpful little booklet for me years ago..

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

Currently I don't have the faith not to go to a doctor if things get serious

My first stance is always to pray as I have experienced Gods healing touch as well as seen him heal others but if illness/pain persists and I cant get relief then I will get medicine

If Farm Truck is walking in that level of faith then more power to him and hopefully I can attain that in this life

I agree...I would love it if he would learn to approach such topics as a teacher.

Originally Posted by Farm Truck

Jesus took my sickness and disease upon Himself so I cannot be forced to have it. The devil has tried, but he has failed.

God specifically said "By the stripes of Jesus, we HAVE BEEN HEALED...

Why not be like Abraham and hope against hope being convinced that God is able to keep that which He has promised?

God has made a way for us to not get sick. Sure, getting healed is good.... not getting sick at all if even better!

Just because some Christians don't walk in health does not mean God has not provided a way for us to stay healthy... no more than saying God has not provided salvation because some people go to hell when they die.


Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you (allowed to live in us), He that raised up Jesus Christ from the dead shall also quicken (energize, make alive) your mortal body by His Spirit that lives in you.

1 Peter 2:24
Jesus carried our sins in his own body on the cross, so that we, being dead to sin, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.

Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.

Isaiah 53:4, 5
Jesus has carried our grief (pain, anxiety, calamity, disease, sickness), and carried our sorrows (anguish, affliction, feelings of pain, sadness and sorrow): yet we did esteem Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted....but He was wounded (to wound, to break, be slain or killed) for our transgressions, He was bruised (crush, destroy, oppress, to collapse) for our iniquities: the punishment (violence, rebuke) of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed. (He took our wounds, so we could take his wholeness & health in every area of life)

Proverbs 4:20-23
Attend to My words; incline your ear unto My sayings....let them not depart from your eyes; keep them in the midst of your heart....for they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh....keep your heart with all diligence; for out of it flow the forces of life.

James 5:15
The prayer of faith shall save the sick (from being sick!)

Exodus 23:24-26
You shall not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do their works: but you shall utterly overthrow them, and destroy their images.
And you shall serve Adonai your God, and He shall bless your food and drink; and I will take sickness away from the midst of you.
There shall nothing cast their young, nor be barren, in thy land: and you will live out the full span of your lives.


The problem with many Christians is that they see someone else get sick and automatically think they too cannot escape getting sick.

I don't walk by sight... I go forward as though God said what He meant and meant what He said because He says He cannot lie.

I have found the Lord to be very, very faithful to watch over His Word and perform it... but only if I act as though He is not a liar which is of course why He cannot force healing/health on people, because they are not acting as though He cannot lie.

While living in a world full of darkness, sin, sickness, death, etc, etc... why would I not want to accept God's promises as absolute truth?

FT, I really like your passion for the Word. Sometimes Christians do get complacent in their circumstances for various reasons and it is inspiring to hear the testimonies of saints who do walk in divine health.

I'm curious now tho, where are you in regards to dental and optical health? As in, do you have any fillings, do you wear glasses? Or how about aspects of aging...do you have a receding hairline, gray hair, wrinkles, etc?

Not getting down on you in any way if you answer yes to any of the above. I have heard how some well known faith preaches are sometimes scoffed at for minor things with folk disregarding major healings just because they may still wear glasses. Their answer is that they would appreciate others joining in faith with them rather than condemning or trying to negate God's healing provisions.

You have a lot you can offer folk but as others have said it would be better if you approach folk as an encourager/teacher rather than someone lecturing. ;)

I had an uncle who died because he was taught against medicine, doctors, they even preached against wearing false teeth etc.

He died long before I was born and was just a young man when he passed away.

In the early years of Pentecost, during the healing revivals, it was very common to preach "trust God or die" which meant taking NO medicine.

Oh the stories I could tell on this.

Truth is, many of those preachers who preached against going to the doctor, ended up going themselves when they got old.

I'm not downing anyone for trusting God, but be careful about judging. God will test you to the extreme limits if your hard on other people.

Originally Posted by Pentecali

In the early years of Pentecost, during the healing revivals, it was very common to preach "trust God or die" which meant taking NO medicine.

The problem is, people equate NOT doing something as faith. I'm not going to the doctor so I must be in faith; I'm not taking medicine so I must be in faith. Nothing could be further from the truth.

As a matter of fact, one can take medicine and be in faith while one can refuse medicine but not be in faith.

Originally Posted by fuego

The problem is, people equate NOT doing something as faith. I'm not going to the doctor so I must be in faith; I'm not taking medicine so I must be in faith. Nothing could be further from the truth.

As a matter of fact, one can take medicine and be in faith while one can refuse medicine but not be in faith.

I think the important thing is to listen to what God has to say, what his plan is.

Originally Posted by Colonel

I think the important thing is to listen to what God has to say, what his plan is.

Exactly. Everybody is in a different place.

I know of one man that the Lord told him to keep taking his pills for a heart problem, but declare the Word for his healing every time he took one (and the heart problem was something that was not curable) and then about two years later, one day he went to take another pill the Spirit said to him, "You are now healed. You don't need to take the pills any more." He never took another pill and has been healed for years.

Was he in faith? Yes, even though he was taking pills, because he was obeying exactly what he was instructed to do by the Holy Spirit regarding his situation.

Originally Posted by Quest

I would love it if he would learn to approach such topics as a teacher.

I'm not doing anything different than many of the preachers I've heard over ther years

On the other hand, in the last of the last daze in which we are living, people have itching ears which means they only want to hear what they want to hear... which is evident by the falling away made obvious by the worldly lifestyle many Christians and popular ministries are leading.

Originally Posted by krystian

I'm curious now tho, where are you in regards to dental and optical health? As in, do you have any fillings, do you wear glasses? Or how about aspects of aging...do you have a receding hairline, gray hair, wrinkles, etc?

That has absolutely zero to do with the Word of God and is a good example of what everyone calls a straw man argument as it takes the focus away from what is being said on to something else as a distraction.

If I fall dead in the next 20 minutes (I'm too yong to croak), that would just mean I failed to receive health from the Lord like a lot of other Christians.

The focus needs to be... what did God say and what did He do, and how do we walk in it?

Originally Posted by Pentecali

I had an uncle who died because he was taught against medicine, doctors, they even preached against wearing false teeth etc.

There are primarily 3 different place blame could be laid... and yes, there is a reason why everything happens, so there is in fact blame to be laid to explain why this happened.

In other words, how did this happen?

1) God decided to not honor His Word and refused to heal him.
2) The devil somehow gained power and overpowered God's Word.
3) The man that died failed to receive due to either a lack of revelation, and/or a lack of acting like God's Word is true

I personally do not subscribe to #1 or #2 so others will claim I am attacking the person, but I'm not.

I'm simply pointing out that it wasn't God's fault, and the devil cannot do anything to anybody unless he is allowed to do it.

Originally Posted by fuego

I know of one man that the Lord told him to keep taking his pills for a heart problem, but declare the Word for his healing every time he took one (and the heart problem was something that was not curable) and then about two years later, one day he went to take another pill the Spirit said to him, "You are now healed. You don't need to take the pills any more." He never took another pill and has been healed for years.

And, there are others that received healing quickly... and still others that refused to have it in the first place so they never got it at all.

Stoies like this suggest to people that it's OK to "trust" medical science which is experimental at best and these days we are seeing more and more Christians who claim to believe God heals thru doctors... and sadly they die anyway.

Apparently, God has started doing a very poor job of healing thru doctors. Maybe He's slippin and isn't quite as powerful as He once was.

OR, people need to take His Word literally as though He absoluterly cannot lie or not perform His Word... and then meditate, speak, and act as though God's promised are true, literally!

Originally Posted by fuego

Everybody is in a different place.

They ought to get IN CHRIST and allow Christ to live IN THEM

It's hard to do that when folks spend all their time doing worldly things and rarely walk in agreement with the Lord... until there's a problem.

That's the biggest problem with most people right there... when things are going pretty well, their focus is not on the Lord very much at all. It's on living like the world does.

When times are good, that's the time to fill up on God's revelation and His presence and continue learning and growing and rece4ieving His correction and His purging (unless of course you think you are perfect as some grace teachers are teaching these days).

Why do this continually??? First, because it's an honor just to get to know the Lord, and secondly... the devil has a storm with your name on it! He's looking for an opportune time to uncork hell on your life and if you aren't up to the challenge... satan will have opportunity to smile!

Our lives ought to be treated like a military mission, we should be full supplied and ready for war at any given time. It's actually fun when you get in to it if you were ever a rebellious person which I was... later God taught me that this is an excellent thing to have, just don't rebel against God.

We need to learn how to rebel against hell... like Jesus did during His life here on club earth.
He is our example, nobody else.

Originally Posted by fuego

The problem is, people equate NOT doing something as faith. I'm not going to the doctor so I must be in faith; I'm not taking medicine so I must be in faith. Nothing could be further from the truth.

As a matter of fact, one can take medicine and be in faith while one can refuse medicine but not be in faith.

They were also condemned if they did.


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