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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    Yeah, I knew there were demonic strongholds, but not how clouded her mind is and how ignorant of the Word of God.

    Thing is, you can't bring deliverance if the person don't want it.

    I am sure that the night she refused the HS Baptism, after watching her husband receive, was because the devils inside know that when He comes they will get evicted.
    You can cast out a demon but will it return later when the person doesn't repent of the reason why it is there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    You can cast out a demon but will it return later when the person doesn't repent of the reason why it is there ?
    It will indeed return, and according to Jesus it will bring friends who are even more wicked, and the person will end up in even worse condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    FF Bosworth actually says that in 'Christ the Healer'.

    I made a big list of those for my healing class. "If it's God's will for you to be sick, then why do you..." I'll have to find it and post them.
    [B]If sickness and disease is the will of God

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    FF Bosworth actually says that in 'Christ the Healer'.

    I made a big list of those for my healing class. "If it's God's will for you to be sick, then why do you..." I'll have to find it and post them.
    If sickness and disease is the will of God…


    …then why was there none in God’s original creation and none when he restores
    the earth?

    …then why did Jesus bear our sickness and carry our infirmities on the cross?

    …then why did God give doctors the knowledge they have in order to help
    combat it?

    ...then hospitals are houses of rebellion rather than houses of mercy, and doctors
    are agents of rebellion trying to get you out of God’s will. Then why do you go?

    …then why did God give you an immune system to help combat sickness and
    disease?

    …then why did Jesus, who was the will of God in the flesh, heal ALL who came
    to Him, and never made one person sick?

    …then by healing the sick, Jesus was in rebellion against God, and therefore in
    sin and could not have died as our substitute on the cross.

    …then why does the Word of God say Jesus went about doing GOOD, and
    healing all that were oppressed of the devil?

    …then why is there no sickness in Heaven where His will is carried out in
    perfection?

    …then why does the Word of God say the He “forgives ALL our iniquities and
    heals ALL our diseases” instead of saying He heals only some of our diseases or
    He makes us sick?

    …and for His glory, then why not get sicker where He can be more glorified?

    …then why does James tell us to call for the elders of the church and be
    anointed with oil and the prayer of faith will heal the sick?

    …then why in Mark 16 did Jesus commission believers to lay hands on the sick
    and have them recover, not be made sicker?

    When Jesus was casing out devils the Jews said he does it by satan. Jesus said
    a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. If God is allowing the sickness on
    you and then healing you, His kingdom is divided and cannot stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    If sickness and disease is the will of God…


    …then why was there none in God’s original creation and none when he restores
    the earth?

    …then why did Jesus bear our sickness and carry our infirmities on the cross?

    …then why did God give doctors the knowledge they have in order to help
    combat it?

    ...then hospitals are houses of rebellion rather than houses of mercy, and doctors
    are agents of rebellion trying to get you out of God’s will. Then why do you go?

    …then why did God give you an immune system to help combat sickness and
    disease?

    …then why did Jesus, who was the will of God in the flesh, heal ALL who came
    to Him, and never made one person sick?

    …then by healing the sick, Jesus was in rebellion against God, and therefore in
    sin and could not have died as our substitute on the cross.

    …then why does the Word of God say Jesus went about doing GOOD, and
    healing all that were oppressed of the devil?

    …then why is there no sickness in Heaven where His will is carried out in
    perfection?

    …then why does the Word of God say the He “forgives ALL our iniquities and
    heals ALL our diseases” instead of saying He heals only some of our diseases or
    He makes us sick?

    …and for His glory, then why not get sicker where He can be more glorified?

    …then why does James tell us to call for the elders of the church and be
    anointed with oil and the prayer of faith will heal the sick?

    …then why in Mark 16 did Jesus commission believers to lay hands on the sick
    and have them recover, not be made sicker?

    When Jesus was casing out devils the Jews said he does it by satan. Jesus said
    a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. If God is allowing the sickness on
    you and then healing you, His kingdom is divided and cannot stand.
    Stick that in your Piper and smoke it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Stick that in your Piper and smoke it.
    I see what you did there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I see what you did there.

    Nothing wasted here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    Another meeting. This time with couple and the 2 pastors and I. The person had a notebook with a couple scripture passages jotted down. I was told "It says in Ephesians 4 that He gave 1 gift to each one and you are an evangelist and not the pastor, and you should not have prayed like that." I said, "I wasn't acting like the pastor, I was acting like a disciple. We are all disciples." She disagreed.
    MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!!!!

    So she got her apology that maybe I could have dialed it back a bit (as far as I will go) and that I never meant to hurt her. She also gets to keep the devils inside because she wants us to behave like nice quiet Baptist ministers.

    Until she realizes that she is indeed in bondage and that the truth can set her free there is nothing more I can do but pray for her eyes to be somehow opened.

    I will not back down when someone comes along who actually wants deliverance. I am sure she will again complain. I am praying that a strong deliverance will happen right in front of her so that she will see the truth. I will not refuse to minister to anyone who desires freedom, even though I am just a plain ol' evangelist.
    Lester mentions this exact thing at about 16:20 in this message.


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    That person is messed up bad. From what I read what is she to tell you WHAT you are? Evangelist or Apostle or Teacher, she is in full evasion tactic to keep you on a leash around her. Yeah, that has demonic all over it.

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    Yes sir. The Lord gave me a message to preach yesterday-"In Jesus' Name". Next time they put me in I will bring it. Not going to allow ignorance to rule and keep other folks in bondage when Jesus came to set them free and then commissioned every one of us to carry on with that mission when He left. Been watching Lester Sumrall's series on demonology and a lot of things have really clicked in my spirit.

    I have seen people before who could not sit in the sanctuary during the preaching because the devils within were stirring them up and agitating them. They know when someone is on to them. I think the key today is that the congregation needs to be educated and understand what it is really all about so that people don't freak out. One of the tactics of the enemy is that they will convince their host that they are being insulted when someone addresses the devils within.
    Folks need to understand how it and they all work, and that they can either choose to be embarrassed or they can choose to be free, their choice.

    The devils have done a great job of covering up their activity among unknowing congregations. Time to expose and expel them!

    Something that really jumped out at me yesterday was in Ephesians 6, the full armor of God. The final and most important part of that is that Paul instructs us to pray IN THE SPIRIT. The only way to do that is to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. That is one of the truth's God gave me to put in the message.
    Time for the sleeping bride to wake up and trim their lamps!



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