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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I would agree that in some cases that would be true, but not as a blanket assessment due to demonic activity we allow and engage with or sin we deny and lies we choose to believe to the point our minds no longer are rational....reaching a point where one can no longer recognize conviction would make it no less murder...
    We should be careful with defining any act as being due to "sickness in the head". There's a humanistic current that seeks to explain every act in such terms until the justice system is no longer about punishment but merely about deterring wouldbe perpetrators.

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    I knew a pastors daughter who committed suicide who I believe is now in heaven as are other believers who took their lives

    Not all believers who suicide go to heaven some do end up in hell - God knows all the reasons why and he judges accordingly
    A minister I know was given a very clear vision of a mature believer he knew and sadly this person did go to hell - he wasn't expecting to have this revelation


    We have to give comfort but we cannot give false hope and pretend everyone gets into heaven even if they profess Christ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    We should be careful with defining any act as being due to "sickness in the head". There's a humanistic current that seeks to explain every act in such terms until the justice system is no longer about punishment but merely about deterring wouldbe perpetrators.
    The humanistic current interpreting that as an EXCUSE is the difference.....

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    The NKJV corrects the original KJV translation of the verse :

    13 If we are faithless,
    He remains faithful;
    He cannot deny Himself.

    The vast majority of English translations concur, the theme is "being unfaithful" rather than "having no faith".
    Isn't that kind of a distinction without a difference?

    You are the the one who is defining it as having no faith.







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    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Isn't that kind of a distinction without a difference?

    You are the the one who is defining it as having no faith.
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    No I'm not. If we deny Jesus then that is an expression of having no faith in him. Being faithless is more like sinning, being disobedient etc. He remains faithful to save us even if we have been faithless - or unfaithful as some translations say. He doesn't save those that no longer believe at all.

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    Just the thought of meeting Jesus after taking my own life sends shivers down my spine.
    Forget hearing Him say to you, "Well done good and faithful servant."
    Forget being in the company of the overcomers listed in the book of Revelation.
    Imagine the disappointment on His face as you sheepishly cower before Him at the bema seat.
    Not only that, but you would probably have forfeited any future rewards for Christian living and service.
    Too much remorse and future repercussions that would impact your eternal standing (ruling and reigning) in the kingdom of God. Even though the Lord would wipe away the tears from your eyes. Of coarse the above is mentioned only if you even made heaven after committing suicide. I know mental illness, demonic influence, and severe depression plays an important role in one's decision in killing themselves. But God, and He alone would have the final say if the suicides (one being a believer) name would be blotted out from the book of life.
    Just to risky as a believer to "take themselves out" with eternity on the line, and where you would spend it. I wouldn't want to role the dice with so much at stake, just way too risky.
    I know there is a post here about the pastor who committed suicide. A very tragic and extremely sad situation. I don't know what the pastors frame of mind was, or the type of circumstances that led him to decide to "end it all." But what a waste to leave behind a wife to raise three young sons. To leave behind a congregation that is now confused, hurting, and bewildered. His wife believed he went into the presence of Jesus after he took his life, and rightly so, only God knows for sure. A Christian suicide is like playing Russian roulette, will the chamber come up empty (make heaven) or a live round goes off (ends up in hell). Just way too risky with eternal consequences to pay. Again, God is the final judge. Never ever commit suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Just the thought of meeting Jesus after taking my own life sends shivers down my spine.
    Forget hearing Him say to you, "Well done good and faithful servant."
    Forget being in the company of the overcomers listed in the book of Revelation.
    Imagine the disappointment on His face as you sheepishly cower before Him at the bema seat.
    Not only that, but you would probably have forfeited any future rewards for Christian living and service.
    Too much remorse and future repercussions that would impact your eternal standing (ruling and reigning) in the kingdom of God. Even though the Lord would wipe away the tears from your eyes. Of coarse the above is mentioned only if you even made heaven after committing suicide. I know mental illness, demonic influence, and severe depression plays an important role in one's decision in killing themselves. But God, and He alone would have the final say if the suicides (one being a believer) name would be blotted out from the book of life.
    Just to risky as a believer to "take themselves out" with eternity on the line, and where you would spend it. I wouldn't want to role the dice with so much at stake, just way too risky.
    I know there is a post here about the pastor who committed suicide. A very tragic and extremely sad situation. I don't know what the pastors frame of mind was, or the type of circumstances that led him to decide to "end it all." But what a waste to leave behind a wife to raise three young sons. To leave behind a congregation that is now confused, hurting, and bewildered. His wife believed he went into the presence of Jesus after he took his life, and rightly so, only God knows for sure. A Christian suicide is like playing Russian roulette, will the chamber come up empty (make heaven) or a live round goes off (ends up in hell). Just way too risky with eternal consequences to pay. Again, God is the final judge. Never ever commit suicide.
    Thank you. You just shared what I have thought though all my years in Christ. Suicide is a very selfish act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Just the thought of meeting Jesus after taking my own life sends shivers down my spine.
    Forget hearing Him say to you, "Well done good and faithful servant."
    Forget being in the company of the overcomers listed in the book of Revelation.
    Imagine the disappointment on His face as you sheepishly cower before Him at the bema seat.
    Not only that, but you would probably have forfeited any future rewards for Christian living and service.
    Too much remorse and future repercussions that would impact your eternal standing (ruling and reigning) in the kingdom of God. Even though the Lord would wipe away the tears from your eyes. Of coarse the above is mentioned only if you even made heaven after committing suicide. I know mental illness, demonic influence, and severe depression plays an important role in one's decision in killing themselves. But God, and He alone would have the final say if the suicides (one being a believer) name would be blotted out from the book of life.
    Just to risky as a believer to "take themselves out" with eternity on the line, and where you would spend it. I wouldn't want to role the dice with so much at stake, just way too risky.
    I know there is a post here about the pastor who committed suicide. A very tragic and extremely sad situation. I don't know what the pastors frame of mind was, or the type of circumstances that led him to decide to "end it all." But what a waste to leave behind a wife to raise three young sons. To leave behind a congregation that is now confused, hurting, and bewildered. His wife believed he went into the presence of Jesus after he took his life, and rightly so, only God knows for sure. A Christian suicide is like playing Russian roulette, will the chamber come up empty (make heaven) or a live round goes off (ends up in hell). Just way too risky with eternal consequences to pay. Again, God is the final judge. Never ever commit suicide.
    There's also the category where suicide ends total, irreversible misery. Like the woman mentioned in an other thread who had gotten diagnosed with some horrible brain disease that would rapidly plummet her into enormous pain and misery (and madness ?) and then inevitably kill her after weeks to months. She ended her life before it kicked in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    There's also the category where suicide ends total, irreversible misery. Like the woman mentioned in an other thread who had gotten diagnosed with some horrible brain disease that would rapidly plummet her into enormous pain and misery (and madness ?) and then inevitably kill her after weeks to months. She ended her life before it kicked in.
    This reminds me of the Oregon woman, Brittany Maynard who moved to Portland, OR to take advantage of the states assisted suicide by a doctors guidance. Even though Brittany said that she was still basically happy, the doctors narrowed down her original 10 year survival period to 6 months. She admitted she felt like she was getting sicker, even though there was still joy in her life. Nothing was said where she was "spiritually speaking" during her final weeks before she drank the deadly cocktail prescribed by her doctor.

    If I was in the same boat as Brittany, I would not have taken advantage of Washington's assisted suicide law similar to Oregon's. As a believer, I would choose to "endure to the end" trusting in God for a healing miracle. If I were not healed, I would have the confidence to meet the Lord without guilt or remorse upon my death.
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/br...mitted-suicide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    If I was in the same boat as Brittany, I would not have taken advantage of Washington's assisted suicide law similar to Oregon's. As a believer, I would choose to "endure to the end" trusting in God for a healing miracle. If I were not healed, I would have the confidence to meet the Lord without guilt or remorse upon my death.
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/br...mitted-suicide
    I am in no way condoning suicide, but that's an easy thing to say when you're not the one suffering with brain cancer or any other disease that can cause indescribable horrible pain. I don't think anyone knows how they would react to that before they're actually in the situation. I know we all think we would react that way, but you just never know. We all have different tolerances for pain. When I have had serious pain for one reason or another, I have always wondered how I would handle it if I had that level of pain was 24/7.

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