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    'The Shack' Author Disputes Christian View That Those Who Die Without Jesus Can't Achieve Salvation

    In the past we talked about 'The Shack' author, William P Young and where he stood doctrinally when he wrote The Shack

    His latest comments reveal he is a universalist.
    IMO he has held these beliefs internally for years but eventually they will come out. He tried to ride the fence and still appeal to believers who hold to true foundational doctrine

    It is better he states what he really believes instead of pretending

    You will find who those who go into error will use the Romans verses about the love of God as it justifies them believing anything

    There is alot of sadness in his life where he needed healing and compassion. The abuse he suffered made him vulnerable to error but in wanting to get free and healed he also went down a wrong path.


    https://www.christianpost.com/news/t...vation-225191/



    William Paul Young, the author behind the faith-based bestseller The Shack, later turned into a movie in 2017, has addressed one of the main controversies behind his book, by disputing the Christian mainstream view that those who die without knowing Jesus Christ cannot achieve salvation.

    Speaking to Eternity website in Australia, the author was asked what happens to a person who does not know God or does not return to God within the time frame of their life on earth.

    "You're putting a 'don't return [to God]' as if death is the final arbiter," Young said.


    "Romans itself says that death can't separate you from the love of God [see Romans 8:31-39, in particular]," he argued, insisting that the verse applies to all people, including those who haven't accepted Christ.

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    Death indeed does not separate us from His love however, our sin certainly will.

    To those that I warned back in the early days some 10 years ago when we debated this book, I wont say I told you so but I will say, ask me if I’m surprised. Be careful what you pour into your spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Death indeed does not separate us from His love however, our sin certainly will.

    To those that I warned back in the early days some 10 years ago when we debated this book, I wont say I told you so but I will say, ask me if I’m surprised. Be careful what you pour into your spirit.

    The tragedy is that many believers were discussing his book in their Bible studies as if it had wonderful truths that Christians need to know

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    The tragedy is that many believers were discussing his book in their Bible studies as if it had wonderful truths that Christians need to know
    These are the days of itching ears and shallow streams. Simple study in doctrine is what is needed. These are the days of the great falling away.

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    Matt Crouch, president of TBN gave Mr. Young his own TV show on his Christian television network which reaches into millions of homes. Only eternity will tell how much damage this has done in spreading error. Crouch will be held accountable at the judgment seat of Christ for allowing this false gospel presented by Young to be given a national platform through network TV.
    If you put God First, you have Him at Last.

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    I think a lot...I mean a LOT of "evangelical Christians" are closet universalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I think a lot...I mean a LOT of "evangelical Christians" are closet universalists.
    I think you are probably right.

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    The book that he wrote after the Shack makes his universalism clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I think a lot...I mean a LOT of "evangelical Christians" are closet universalists.
    Usually they hope that it is like that but aren't sure enough to dare to teach that to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I think a lot...I mean a LOT of "evangelical Christians" are closet universalists.
    Especially at funerals.

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