Thread: John Hagee

I commented to a pastor that I thought he did a good job with the prayer at the dedication ceremony in Jerusalem.

He said that Hagee doesn't not believe the cross is for the Jew. Calvary & the shed blood was for the gentiles and that Jew is under another covenant

Anyone know about this ?

Originally Posted by Pentecali

I commented to a pastor that I thought he did a good job with the prayer at the dedication ceremony in Jerusalem.

He said that Hagee doesn’t not believe the cross is for the Jew. Calvary & the shed blood was for the gentiles and that Jew is under another covenant

Anyone know about this ?

It was a controversy some years back. It appeared that's what he was saying. But I think he stated he doesn't believe that, even though it sounds like he does at times.

I don't have the full scope of what Hagee is at theologically, but I recall he has been criticized for not explicitly saying the "textbook" Bible answers that he is being baited to say. But I do know this, as well as any Christian who is trying to build bridges with people. You just don't spout off your "party line" and expect others to come around to your way of thinking. You engage people you are trying to win over with respect. This is called DIPLOMACY - something even Christians should know and do.

Hagee is in a delicate position of being a Christian who knows we should bless Israel and show that we are "with them." OBVIOUSLY there are areas of disagreement, mainly the issue of who Jesus was.

Sure, he could be blunt and say something like "Jews will go to hell without Jesus, etc.", but so will everyone else. It's love for the Jewish people that needs to be shown, and don't worry, I'm sure most of them "get it" that Christians believe Jesus is the "only way," so we don't have to make this something that they need to hear as a major "sound bite" we tell them ad nauseum.

I tend to give Hagee some leeway, but I know others like Michael Brown, take issue with him on some aspects of theology regarding Israel and the Jewish people.

I agree with JD that we have to be diplomatic when building bridges with non christians and we shouldn't ram the gospel down people's throat
John Hagee can certainly take this approach when dealing with Jews in various situations.

I can't comment on JH exact position what he believes regarding Jews as I don't know but as a christian minister he should be teaching from his pulpit that all people need salvation by faith in Jesus Christ including Jews.

There are many messianic Jews in Israel who proclaim that fellow Jews need to accept Christ as their personal saviour

Everything John Hagee teaches about Jews is similar to dual covenant theology but he officially denies that he believes in dual covenant theology. Fishy.

My Basic understanding of his position is that all need to be saved Jew or Gentile however due to temporary blindness on the Jews ., Targetting Jews by Gentiles for Wholesale Evangelism is a waste of time and will only lead to offense until the time comes when God in his sovereignty will remove the blindness .,

Quetsion then arises . what about Messianics? , well Hagee associates with Messianics such as Sid Roth and Jonathan Cahn so clearly he believes that Jews are saved thru Yeshua

Originally Posted by Colonel

Everything John Hagee teaches about Jews is similar to dual covenant theology but he officially denies that he believes in dual covenant theology.

That's basically it.

Pastor Hagee teaches that there is only one way of salvation and there never has been another. There was no salvation by the sacrifice of animals but only by grace through faith. Abraham knew and loved the only God that has ever existed and he had faith in God for salvation.
On a parallel line of thought, Jesus was given the name above every name, that at His name every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is LORD. What name is that name? Is it Jesus. Well since He was given the name Jesus at birth, He already had that name. I think that the name above ever name is the name יהוה which many Christians pronounce Jehovah. Abraham had faith in that name! Not duel covenant, unified covenant.

Originally Posted by Tehilah Ba'Aretz

Pastor Hagee teaches that there is only one way of salvation and there never has been another. There was no salvation by the sacrifice of animals but only by grace through faith. Abraham knew and loved the only God that has ever existed and he had faith in God for salvation.
On a parallel line of thought, Jesus was given the name above every name, that at His name every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is LORD. What name is that name? Is it Jesus. Well since He was given the name Jesus at birth, He already had that name. I think that the name above ever name is the name יהוה which many Christians pronounce Jehovah. Abraham had faith in that name! Not duel covenant, unified covenant.

So now orthodox Jews automatically believe in Jesus even when they mock him as the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier or worse ? Tehilah, "Jehovah" isn't a stumbling block to Jews nor was "Jehovah" that at the time of Jesus. The reason why is that "Jehovah" never became a man, he was never crucified for the sins of the people and he was never raised again from the dead.
You're merely conforming to what the orthodox Jews around you would like you to believe and that is a sad thing.