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    Quote Originally Posted by Jew and Greek View Post
    But we are told to be prepared to give an answer in I Peter 3:15. This is the problem with Charismatics. We don't want to offend people so we allow bad theology and behavior to go unchallenged. It's time for judgment to begin in the house of God. (I Pet. 4:17) If we're not willing to hold our own accountable we have no reason to be surprised when the likes of Johnny Mac and others attempt to do it for us.
    Also, someone like John Hagee may serve as an example of a phenomenon to be discussed. There are plenty of other big names that seem to be doing what I described in post #54 above. Some times for the shock value as we discussed in relation to Copeland and his statements earlier. With Rick Joyner and his Enoch/Elijah stuff, who knows what's actually going on. "Crazy, new stuff" is quite common even if FireBrand thinks that that is a terrible taskmaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jew and Greek View Post
    But we are told to be prepared to give an answer in I Peter 3:15. This is the problem with Charismatics. We don't want to offend people so we allow bad theology and behavior to go unchallenged. It's time for judgment to begin in the house of God. (I Pet. 4:17) If we're not willing to hold our own accountable we have no reason to be surprised when the likes of Johnny Mac and others attempt to do it for us.
    You are called to give and answer for what YOU believe not for what OTHERS believe and again you are free to question his doctrine . What you are not free to do is arbitrarily ascribe I'll motive . It really isn't anymore complex than that

    Johnny Mac and others are free to do as they would they cannot stop the work of God neither does you concern over them give you or anyone license to ignore proper boundaries

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAP View Post
    You are called to give and answer for what YOU believe not for what OTHERS believe and again you are free to question his doctrine . What you are not free to do is arbitrarily ascribe I'll motive . It really isn't anymore complex than that

    Johnny Mac and others are free to do as they would they cannot stop the work of God neither does you concern over them give you or anyone license to ignore proper boundaries
    Money per se does not in and of itself define motive. Some believe $ is validation of their ministry, so along those lines, it's not so much about being ill-minded but being simply deceived. But yes, any enterprise of size is money minded, imagine the meters that are spinning on some of those operations and what it takes to feed them. Again, money minded doesn't necessarily mean evil minded.

    If a constituency is shoveling money into your ministry it might even be thought "wise" to keep it coming. I'd probably draw the line at a bogus gospel though. Christ first came for the Jews, by offering them a pass you are pretty much negating His ministry. I do understand where Hagee is coming from, it's a tough question but do you really love Jews when you don't preach the cross?

    I like John Hagee, been blessed by him. He preaches the gospel powerfully but I don't get the blind spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I like John Hagee, been blessed by him. He preaches the gospel powerfully but I don't get the blind spot.
    John Hagee may be more comprehensible to other Americans, I don't know.

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    Sadly, I am forced to put Colonel back on my ignore list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehilah Ba'Aretz View Post
    Sadly, I am forced to put Colonel back on my ignore list.
    Singling me out as usual even though every other poster believes exactly the same as I do. Childish and pathetic.

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    Childish and pathetic.
    I think it childish and pathetic to call another such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    I think it childish and pathetic to call another such.
    I was referring to his reoccurring behavior, quite obviously.

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