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    I really don't understand what you're asking. it meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    I really don't understand what you're asking. it meaningless.
    Does that mean that God is in control regardless of what happens, like per definition ? That would make that statement meaningless, if it has no counterpart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    "in charge" and "in control" are synonymous.

    I don't understand why that's difficut to get.

    "in control" does not mean "robot city".. man does EXACTLY what he wants.
    God will make it very uncomfortable if s/he isn't where God wants them. (ie: Paul, Moses, etc)
    The husband is the HEAD over the wife as Christ is the HEAD over the church..now in situations where the husband dictates the every move of the wife we call that 'controlling and unloving'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    "in charge" and "in control" are synonymous.

    I don't understand why that's difficut to get.

    "in control" does not mean "robot city".. man does EXACTLY what he wants.
    God will make it very uncomfortable if s/he isn't where God wants them. (ie: Paul, Moses, etc)
    In the English language and with all it's varying definitions, they MAY OR MAY NOT BE synonymous. You make the distinction here yourself...God has laws in place but man's own choices produce their own crop. Many interpret 'in control' as if God is forcing HIS plan and purpose on someone. As per my earlier example...in the case of an untimely death...God is in control does not mean their death was by His design and that IS exactly how many interpret that phrase...often the truth is that suffering being experienced is because God is NOT in control of a person's life.

    So while a person can control their OWN life and consequences, God is always the LORD over creation. Authority never changes but who someone allows to CONTROL does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    "in charge" and "in control" are synonymous.
    No they're not if you understand what is being said.

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    I have heard many people say, "God is in control," implying that God was responsible for their trouble or sickness, and that it was beyond their ability to do anything about it, ... that they were destined to suffer. It is the voice of a spirit of resignation, not the voice of the spirit of faith.

    When you consider all the horrible things going on the world today, it is irrational to imagine that God is the one causing them to occur. It is contrary to the nature of God. God is love. God is good. He is predisposed to show favor and grace to His children. No good thing will He withhold from those who walk uprightly before Him. He who spared not His own Son, but freely gave Him up for us all, ...
    "will He not also, along with Him, graciously give us all things?" (Rom 8:32 NIV).

    Someone wisely stated, "If God is in control, .... then He sure has things in a mess!!!"

    Actually, Adam relinquished control in the earth to Satan when he disobeyed God and ate fruit of the forbidden tree in the garden of Eden.

    Four important Scripture passages in this regard:

    John 10:10KJV
    10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    1 John 5:19 NLT
    19 We know that we are children of God and that the world around us is under the control of the evil one.

    Luke 4:5-7 NLT
    5 Then the devil took him up and revealed to him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
    6 "I will give you the glory of these kingdoms and authority over them," the devil said, "because they are mine to give to anyone I please.
    7 I will give it all to you if you will worship me."

    2 Cor 4:4 NLT
    4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. ....

    Ultimately, at the end of the age, that control will be taken away from Satan and he will be confined.

    Then, when Satan is eliminated from the earth, there will be nothing to hurt or destroy God's people.

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