Thread: What's the Problem with Joel Osteen

Originally Posted by Valiant Woman

You have favorites huh? Not surprising.

Now you're just twisting words. I thought Nikos was the one who was supposed to behave like his shoe size ?

TIME OUT......

Originally Posted by Colonel

Now you're just twisting words. I thought Nikos was the one who was supposed to behave like his shoe size ?

And that is why this thread is stupid. Upset at people who call others haters or someone who behaves like their shoe size makes little difference. Let him that is without sin cast the first stone.

John 20:2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him.”

Jesus' favorite disciple. Or whatever you want to call it. Well Joel Osteen isn't my favorite minister, I'd rather listen to some others.

Maybe that is God's business and not Valiant Woman's business.

Originally Posted by Valiant Woman

You're right! Time to put these two kids back on ignore.

You're constantly creating arguments. Why don't you take a break from that ?

Originally Posted by Colonel

You're constantly creating arguments. Why don't you take a break from that ?

Impossible. It would take prayer and fasting.

Joel Osteen is a very nice man. I won't go into details on it, but as a person, he genuinely nice. I'm
Not an JO basher, and I'm not saying he doesn't do any good, but I think Fuego put it best, it's what he leaves out

A few years ago I went to a college reunion and asked a gay individual where they went to church. This person said he goes to Osteen's church. They feel very comfortable there and feel accepted as they are. Even though osteen has said it's a sin, it's conveyed that we all sin, we are all sinners so not much a difference is made, it's never mentioned that we must leave the lifestyle and come out of sin.

I can't say for sure Joel believes you can live that lifestyle and make it to heaven, but why do these people feel comfortable there without having to change? can you show me a message where he actually preached against it?

He did say on CNN he would attend a gay wedding. On other shows like the View & Larry king show, he did not take a firm stand. In fact, it came across as if he was intimidated.

Things like this leave people in doubt

Originally Posted by Pentecali

Joel Osteen is a very nice man. I won't go into details on it, but as a person, he genuinely nice. I'm
Not an JO basher, and I'm not saying he doesn't do any good, but I think Fuego put it best, it's what he leaves out

A few years ago I went to a college reunion and asked a gay individual where they went to church. This person said he goes to Osteen's church. They feel very comfortable there and feel accepted as they are. Even though osteen has said it's a sin, it's conveyed that we all sin, we are all sinners so not much a difference is made, it's never mentioned that we must leave the lifestyle and come out of sin.

I can't say for sure Joel believes you can live that lifestyle and make it to heaven, but why do these people feel comfortable there without having to change? can you show me a message where he actually preached against it?

He did say on CNN he would attend a gay wedding. On other shows like the View & Larry king show, he did not take a firm stand. In fact, it came across as if he was intimidated.

Things like this leave people in doubt

That reminds me of politicians when they attempt to increase their supporter base, they try to accommodate a fairly divergent group by being fuzzy about what they believe in until everyone interprets the various statements to their personal liking.