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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    He has authority over those who do not believe, obviously. And he can buffet us through those. But what authority does he have over us at the most basic level ? Let's say you have all faith in all of God's promises, what authority does he have then ? Be specific.
    You are missing the whole point of this thread. Bill said satan has no authority...that is biblically untrue
    Everything you bring up is irrelevant to the actual point of this discussion.

    If you believe it is worthwhile discussing your point please start another thread

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    Define authority.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    Define authority.
    Check the Greek

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    Bill said satan has no authority.....there is no debate about what he said

    It is either true or false

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Bill said satan has no authority.....we can spin it any way you like

    It is either true or false
    It does depend on what you mean by "authority".

    Jesus said that "All Authority in Heaven and in earth has been given unto Me."

    Was that a lie?


    As far as satan goes...

    Ability does not imply authority.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    It does depend on what you mean by "authority".

    Jesus said that "All Authority in Heaven and in earth has been given unto Me."

    Was that a lie?
    As I said in my OP both can coexist in the framework of scripture until Jesus returns and satan is bound

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    As I said in my OP both can coexist in the framework of scripture until Jesus returns and satan is bound
    See above edit to previous post.

    You still need to rightly divide what it is that you are actually trying to say.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    As I said in my OP both can coexist in the framework of scripture until Jesus returns and satan is bound
    Actually you really didn't address that in much detail.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    See above edit to previous post.

    You still need to rightly divide what it is that you are actually trying to say.
    Its very simple....satan still has some authority on this earth....the NT teaches that clearly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Its very simple....satan still has some authority on this earth....the NT teaches that clearly
    I think we are talking past one another.

    Did Jesus lie about "all authority?"


    Again, ability does not imply authority.
    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly...
    (Psalm 1)

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