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    Is It Wrong For A Christian to NOT Go To A Doctor ?

    Should we just believe and pray, or should we pray and seek medical help when necessary ?Although the faith teachers told us that they walked in divine health we find that most if not all of them were treated by doctors and took medicine for treatable conditions. So when one says they trust only in God I ask them if they have ANY condition that could be possibly be treated with medicine ?Most cannot answer and maintain their proud confession of walking in divine health. Everyone is human and doctors are a real blessing to us if we pray and know when to go to one. If someone says to me they walk in some kind of special faith that prevents all sickness from touching them I immediately turn them off as a liar. No one is immune in this life from sickness or disease.Many spiritual things can be done to lessen and even eliminate sickness but it is still a fact of life.

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    And if they put that presumtuous faith on their children I would call the law if I knew they needed medical attention.

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    Hobart Freeman Dies; Indicted Head of a Sect
    AP
    Published: December 10, 1984



    LEESBURG, Ind., Dec. 9— The Rev. Dr. Hobart Freeman, the leader of the Faith Assembly, died Saturday night at his home. He was 64 years old and had been ill for a month.

    Dr. Freeman was indicted Oct. 17 by a Kosciusko County grand jury on three felony charges in connection with the death of Pamela Menne, a 15-year-old whose parents belong to the Faith Assembly. She died Sept. 16 after her parents tried to relieve her kidney failure through faith healing, as the sect professes.

    Dr. Freeman taught that medical care was evil and historically tied to witchcraft.

    The grand jury charged Dr. Freeman with aiding and inducing reckless homicide, criminal recklessness and neglect of a dependent. The girl's parents, James and Ione Menne of Warsaw, Ind., were indicted on charges of reckless homicide, criminal recklessness and neglect of a dependent.

    Hobart Freeman was born in 1920 in Ewing, Ky. He was originally a Baptist and earned degrees in divinity and theology at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky.

    He later joined the Brethren Church and earned a doctorate at Grace Theological Seminary, but was eventually excommunicated and dismissed from his teaching post for extremism. He started the Faith Assembly, based in Wilmot, Ind., in the middle 1970's.

    Dr. Freeman declined to grant interviews but was described by the Rev. John J. Davis, a former student who had talked with him, as brilliant and ''a good theologian'' who became withdrawn into his own personality late in life.

    Dr. Freeman was confined to bed at his home in Shoe Lake, Ind., for the past month. An autopsy was planned.

    "Dr. Freeman died at his Shoe Lake home of bronchial pneumonia and congestive heart failure complicated by an ulcerated gangrenous leg, which in the weeks preceding had forced him to preach sitting down. He had refused all medical help, even the removal of the bandages so his leg could be cleaned."

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    My short bio: Joshua Wilson was born in 1975 to parents who attended Hobart Freeman’s Faith Assembly. Faith Assembly members believed that going to doctors was a sin, and that children would be possessed by demons for seeking medical care or going to a hospital. Joshua was born at home, without medical care. Painful ear infections in both ears plagued Joshua for his first 15 years, despite frequent faith healing efforts. Around age 7, Joshua even received a personal “laying on of hands” faith healing attempt by Hobart Freeman himself.

    Joshua left the world of Faith Assembly around age 15, when his immediate family was excommunicated from a satellite church over a doctrinal dispute. His immediate family slowly normalized, and today he goes to doctors or hospital when medical needs arise. In the 24 years since, Josh has remained fascinated by Faith Assembly, and in the last 10 years has cultivated a strong desire to tell its story. He is drawn to the stories of other children of Faith Assembly, and the dynamics that allowed Faith Assembly to grow and thrive.

    In March 2015, Joshua announced plans for a documentary entitled Children Of Faith Assembly, to be funded by a Kickstarter campaign. My Proof: http://imgur.com/dBkQiBA

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    P.S. I was prayed for and received healing for a bad stomach condition a few weeks ago. I do believe in divine healing.

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    This is the problem for Christians that don't go to a doctor and say they're 'believing God' instead. Their 'believing God' or 'walking in faith' is basically the fact they're not going to the doctor. They don't really know how to exercise faith, walk in faith, appropriate the promise, etc, etc, etc. 'Walking by faith' isn't just NOT doing something. In other words I'm in faith since I'm NOT going to the doctor.

    The prayer of faith in Mark 11:24 says:
    24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

    This is a process. First (1) you have something you desire, then you (2) pray and ask for that thing, now here's the important part, you then (3) 'believe you receive them' and THEN (4) 'you shall have them.' It doesn't say that we ask and then we have. There is this process of 'believing you receive' between the 'asking' and 'you shall have them.' In other words, we don't have it when we pray, otherwise there would be no reason to 'believe you receive' it before you have it. We have it in a positional sense, the finished work has been done, but we don't have it in the natural yet. I hope that makes sense.

    That being the case, what if you're diagnosed with stage 4 cancer? You have a few months to live? Praying the prayer of faith being a process, what if your death is closer than your 'believe you receive' period before you are healed? Meaning, what if your personal process for receiving your healing (believing you receive), and where you personally are in faith, is a longer process for you than when the death will come? In that case you need some help, and that help might be medical science. It certainly also includes other people coming into agreement with you in prayer, etc.

    This verse actually implies the answer to our prayer isn't going to be instantaneous, otherwise would would just ask and have, and not have to go through the 'believe that ye receive them' process. No one should ever be under condemnation because they don't get instant answers to prayer, instant as in manifesting in the natural right after we pray. He's basically said here that's how prayer is. You answer will take some time. The 'believe that ye receive them' is actually the part that James is talking about when he says for us after we pray in faith to not waver. That is the period where we have to stand strong until our answer comes, and not waver so as to not negate our prayer of faith.

    In summary it takes time to receive from God, and I'd say most of us are in a position that if the disease is critical enough, we can use some help keeping us alive or keeping our pain bearable, or whatever, during that process.

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    Ministry without mercy is madness. Dr. Bill Hamon

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    I just read the title of this thread again, and I missed the NOT.

    No, it is not wrong for a Christian to NOT go to the doctor.

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    I think anyone who completely discredits science (which God created) is on the edge of being a cult in and of themselves. They are worshipping their belief system, and not ALL that God has created and ordained for us here on Earth. Just my opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lista View Post
    I think anyone who completely discredits science (which God created) is on the edge of being a cult in and of themselves. They are worshipping their belief system, and not ALL that God has created and ordained for us here on Earth. Just my opinion...
    The early American Pentecostals were typically uneducated and couldn't afford medical attention, at least not anything that was any good. They were more suspicious towards science than the average church goer and they had even more reason to be suspicious of the treatments that they could (barely) afford. That's where that belief stems from. Also, Darwinism was being popularized during the early 1900s, just when the Pentecostal revival began, another reason why their reactions were anti-science.

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