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    Even the most anointed ministers are still human and make bad choices....we have to show grace and be merciful but doesn't mean we blindly swallow everything they say
    Well said, Cardinal!

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    here's where I find it gets interesting.

    If it's certain preachers, it's taken very seriously.

    If it's other preachers, they're either "heresy hunters" or some other derogatory adjective, and some folks generally have at them.

    So, that knife cuts both ways.

    I don't think it's reasonable to assume everyone on a pulpit is a good guy.. if they're teaching heresy, or not have fallen away from Biblical truth, they NEED to be called on it.

    I also think Fuego makes a good point that it doesn't necessarily mean what it's presented as today.

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    Lets have a look at the context of the verse discussed.

    16*The covenant which*He made with Abraham,
    And His oath to Isaac,
    17*And confirmed it to Jacob for a statute,
    To Israel*for*an everlasting covenant,
    18*Saying, "To you I will give the land of Canaan
    As the allotment of your inheritance,"
    19*When you were few in number,
    Indeed very few, and strangers in it.
    20*When they went from one nation to another,
    And from*one*kingdom to another people,
    21*He permitted no man to do them wrong;
    Yes, He rebuked kings for their sakes,
    22*Saying,*"Do not touch My anointed ones,
    And do My prophets no harm."

    The context is the nation of Israel travelling from Egypt and to the land of Canaan and encountering various peoples and their kings along the way. Some wouldnt let them pass under any terms and waged war against them. Against the nation of Israel and the prophets that would speak to them on behalf of God, Moses for instance.
    To employ this verse to criticize a Paul who points out the hypocrisy of a Peter is to take it completely out of context. The closest one could get would be to employ it as a picture of God dealing with those who persecute his people for moving in his Spirit and according to his will, whoever they are. Paul submitted his persecutors to the will of God and to his judgments.
    What happens when some Christian discerns in the Spirit and according to the Word that some well known minister is being carnal or is teaching error and points this out ? What if the minister in question rebukes this Christian for soing so based on 1 Chron 16:22 ? Well who is who in this scenario ? Who is one of Gods anointed ones operating in that anointing and who is persecuting him for doing so because he is carnal and in error ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    Was Peter anointed? Paul had no problem calling him on his hypocrisy.

    It would pay to keep in mind that this was done in a face to face encounter , and had to be dealt with "publicly."
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    (Ephesians 4:17-18)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodismyJudge View Post
    It would pay to keep in mind that this was done in a face to face encounter , and had to be dealt with "publicly."
    You're onto something there but I think it has little to do with who is being criticized. More to do with a critical spirit, one of backstabbing, gossip etc.

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    OT and NT anointings are different.

    God working with and upon a man vs. God operating through a man.

    You probably don't want to oppose what God is doing either way, but if it is just man doing it, well, that is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I think it's misused and used by preachers so they won't be held accountable. And I suppose that who is 'anointed' is in the eye of the beholder.

    Not to mention I think it's taken out of context. It means no physical harm in it's context and I think speaks directly of God's anointed kings, etc, in the context of the OT. It doesn't mean you can't say something that's true about a preacher. David himself even spoke out against Saul.

    I definitely do not think it is meant how it's predominately used in the church today.
    What is the chapter and verse where David spoke out against Saul? I can't find it. Not saying it's not in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    Was Peter anointed? Paul had no problem calling him on his hypocrisy.
    Paul was qualified to call Peter out. But are we?

    Also, what Paul did is not the same as some Christians say and do today against God's ministers. Paul took the biblical route by confronting Peter face to face. Christians today don't do that. They gather in public forums, on social media, in groups in a restaurant, etc. to complain, gripe, and talk negatively against God's anointed ministers when they disagree with their teaching. Even when the teaching may be scriptural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    Paul was qualified to call Peter out. But are we?
    You could post some NT scriptures that give qualifications for rebuking people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    There has to be balance in all this

    I recognise Benny Hinn as an anointed evangelist called to heal and powerfully used by God
    He also has said PUBLICALLY some really unbiblical and dumb things.

    IMO the key revolves around the state of your heart....We should not speak evil and personally vilify but address the error being taught

    As believers it is not wrong to disagree with Hinn and call him out when things he has said are foolish
    Example..... Benny said he had a revelation that there were 9 parts to the Godhead. From memory he was eventually challenged but to give him credit he repented of that error

    Should believers be afraid to not challenge the bad teaching because he is God's anointed??????

    Alot of evil has occurred within churches because some leaders have used those verses to silence critics when they were challenged with unbiblical practices

    The key revolves around the attitude of your heart
    Please just deal with the subject of the OP. This is not a preacher bashing thread. Thank you.
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