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When Should A Pastor Give Them The Boot ?
I was in an inner city church for about 4 years. One guy in particular sexually harassed teen girls as well as adult women. He also conned several people out of money and used drugs on church premises as well as coming to church high.The pastor would not throw him out. After many protests I left the church and resigned as a board member. It was for my families safety.The guy recently moved into a house next to the Pastor with his girlfriend. The girlfriend ran for safety half naked at 3 AM to this Pastor and he called the police. You know that guy is now banned from coming to this church. Seems like bringing it to the doorstep of the Pastor was what it took. Sad. This case is obvious. But are there some that are not ?When do you give the Boot ?
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Originally Posted by
LionHeart
I was in an inner city church for about 4 years. One guy in particular sexually harassed teen girls as well as adult women. He also conned several people out of money and used drugs on church premises as well as coming to church high.
Anywhere withing that might have been a good time. :)
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Yes, the church where the man was sleeping with his father's wife was told to remove him from fellowship...seems this guy went way beyond that...was some family members giving a lot to the church and protecting him from correction?
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Originally Posted by
Quest
Yes, the church where the man was sleeping with his father's wife was told to remove him from fellowship...seems this guy went way beyond that...was some family members giving a lot to the church and protecting him from correction?
No. It was/is a young Pastor who does not like to confront anything.
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If the guy came to church claiming to be a Christian, the pastor should have held him accountable for his actions. Too much loosey-goosey going on in churches these days. As I said in an other thread, we need to start evangelizing the church. We're like the Corinthian church before Paul admonished them. Why is it that Christians don't want to be accountable these days...and pastors don't want to hold people accountable.
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Originally Posted by
LionHeart
No. It was/is a young Pastor who does not like to confront anything.
He doesn't have any business being a pastor (sheperd) them. Pastors protect the flock against wolves.
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Originally Posted by
fuego
He doesn't have any business being a pastor (sheperd) them. Pastors protect the flock against wolves.
Amen
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Pastors are really not TAUGHT how to confront, methinks ... so some do it badly, some do it not at all. It's a rare pastor who will confront directly and in love, with high expectations, and follow through if they're not met. New Day's had to kick a few people out for actions like LH describes in the original post.
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Originally Posted by
LionHeart
I was in an inner city church for about 4 years. One guy in particular sexually harassed teen girls as well as adult women. He also conned several people out of money and used drugs on church premises as well as coming to church high.The pastor would not throw him out. After many protests I left the church and resigned as a board member. It was for my families safety.The guy recently moved into a house next to the Pastor with his girlfriend. The girlfriend ran for safety half naked at 3 AM to this Pastor and he called the police. You know that guy is now banned from coming to this church. Seems like bringing it to the doorstep of the Pastor was what it took. Sad. This case is obvious. But are there some that are not ?When do you give the Boot ?
I have confronted people like that immediately. I will first aim to bring them out of sin and restore them. If they refuse then the next step is to put them on church discipline where I confront them in front of the whole congregation. I have sat people down more than once and have confronted some so strongly that I didn't necessarily have to kick them out. They just stop coming back to church.
Of course when you do stuff like this you get accused of "not walking in love." I sometimes have to explain, even to my own leadership, that love is not syruppy sweetness. Sometimes it requires toughness.
My wife thinks that the problem is that because most of the time I am so kind and loving to people that on the rare occasions that I become angry and confrontational that they get shocked.
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Originally Posted by
victoryword
If they refuse then the next step is to put them on church discipline where I confront them in front of the whole congregation.
could you explain what that looks like, "with skin on" ... how do you call that meeting? do you do it on sunday morning? how do you go about it?
Just curious...
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