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    Is God's Desire for Worship Ego Driven?

    Is God's Desire for Worship Ego Driven?
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    Is God's Desire for Worship Ego Driven?

    But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord (2 Cor. 3:18)

    According to Strong's dictionary, this word "beholding" means "to mirror oneself" and "to see reflected". We are changed into God's likeness by beholding who He truly is. David taught this same truth in the psalms when he wrote, "As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness" (Psalm 17:15). To worship God is to behold Him and be changed into His likeness (Psalm 27:4).

    God is the highest person in the entire universe. There is no one greater than Him. To worship Him is to come up to His level. On the other hand, when we worship anything lower than God, we come down to the level of this object and become debased (Rom. 1:23-28; Acts 7:42, 43). Sin is centered around the worship of things lower than God that in the long run debase and destroy us.

    God knows that He is the greatest and highest in the universe and desires man to excel to great heights as well. God knows that for man, who was created in His image and likeness, to worship anyone or anything else is to go far lower than His created potential. An example of this debasement is found in Jeroboam's introduction of idolatry to Israel:

    Whereupon the king took counsel, and made two calves of gold, and said unto them, It is too much for you to go up to Jerusalem: behold thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt (1 Kings 12:28)

    It is easy to tell that Satan is behind this since Jeroboam does the exact same thing that Israel was condemned for in the wilderness (Ex. 32:4-8). This was part of the "beholding" that they did (Psalm 106:19-21) which made Israel become exactly like the images that they worshipped (Hosea 4:16-17). Concerning those who make idols, David said, "They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them" (Psalm 115:8).

    Therefore, God's desire for our worship is not ego driven. It is love driven. He knows very well that we become what we worship because worship is beholding. If we worship Him then we behold Him and become like Him. If we worship anything lower than Him we become debased. He loves us and wants the best for us. He is the best that we can have.
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    Hab 2:18 "Of what value is an idol carved by a craftsman? Or an image that teaches lies? For the one who makes it trusts in his own creation; he makes idols that cannot speak.
    19 Woe to him who says to wood, 'Come to life!' Or to lifeless stone, 'Wake up!' Can it give guidance? It is covered with gold and silver; there is no breath in it."

    This works the same with all idols, they dont impart life and falling down before them is like falling down before a block of wood, which produces nothing useful.

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    Therefore, God's desire for our worship is not ego driven. It is love driven. He knows very well that we become what we worship because worship is beholding. If we worship Him then we behold Him and become like Him. If we worship anything lower than Him we become debased. He loves us and wants the best for us. He is the best that we can have.
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    It would never even occur to me that anything about God is ego driven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    It would never even occur to me that anything about God is ego driven.
    Well, me either per se. But from a teaching perspective, it's a good question to ask to get to the teaching of revealing the reasons we worship God and why it is a benefit to us. Ask the question from a secular, worldly, 'natural' mindset, then use that to teach the reasons, not 'Just because He's God' so to speak.

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    It would never even occur to me that anything about God is ego driven.
    Some Christians don't have these answers, like Fuego said. Interacting with so many different types of Christians and atheists on another forum, and I literally see this all the time, actually. Atheists believe our beautiful Jesus is an ego-driven control freak genocidal monster. And most of the Christians "answers" are pretty pitiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatchyUsername View Post
    Atheists believe our beautiful Jesus is an ego-driven control freak genocidal monster. And most of the Christians "answers" are pretty pitiful.
    Yep.

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    Our ultimate destiny is one where nothing else than the Holy Spirit exists at all. When God is all in all, as scripture says. We will still exist along with other beings and things but sort of not outside of the Holy Spirit. Still those things will seem as real as now but with a different source for their existence. The world will be right sided. The level of glory we experience now is just a small step along the process of right siding things. Then the glory of God will cover the world - which means everything - like the ocean covers the ocean floor, also scripture. Then God will truly be all we worship and the idols will be utterly gone. Does that seem like a good reason to be where there is only worship of God - the fact that the Holy Spirit will be present without measure ?

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    Being born again at a young age allowed me to perhaps more easily accept things that I'm sure would be questions for an adult unbeliever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatchyUsername View Post
    Some Christians don't have these answers, like Fuego said. Interacting with so many different types of Christians and atheists on another forum, and I literally see this all the time, actually. Atheists believe our beautiful Jesus is an ego-driven control freak genocidal monster. And most of the Christians "answers" are pretty pitiful.
    Very well put.
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