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    Post Why isn't My Giving Working? The Four Types of Giving by Jesse Duplantis

    I know many of you won't be able to handle this teaching, particularly because it deals with Tithes and giving. Nothing riles up Christians more than preachers talking about $MONEY$.

    Hopefully we can keep this civil, and without insulting those with a different viewpoint. I'll post part 2 later if there's enough interest. Here goes!

    P.S. The message is approx. 19 minutes though the video is 27.

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    imma digging a foxhole just in case....

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    i saw the you tube and while i disagree with him i still have a respect 4 Jessie.... i dont believe n tithing but i do believe n giving.

    Mark 6:38
    “Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

    never have gone for lacking n any area......

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    I appreciate how he breaks down the different kinds of giving which agree with the scriptures, even if one doesn't believe in tithing.

    I believe Christians should tithe, but I don't read in the New Testament that we're commanded to. I believe tithing is an indication of how much we trust God. Especially when it becomes a challenge because we may not see immediate results. But that's my PERSONAL belief.

    I didn't understand the principle of the First Fruits or Alms until I heard this message. That was back in July. I don't recall ever hearing it taught.

    I got a lot out of this. So much so, that I still have it in my DVR recorded in July 2015! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    imma digging a foxhole just in case....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheeze View Post
    i saw the you tube and while i disagree with him i still have a respect 4 Jessie.... i dont believe n tithing but i do believe n giving.

    Mark 6:38
    “Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

    never have gone for lacking n any area......
    That scripture is from Luke, 6:38.

    I understand what you're saying, but is having no lack in your personal life enough? What kind of giving is Jesus speaking of in this passage? Reading the whole chapter, He isn't talking about just church giving...

    I submit He's speaking about "Seed" giving in the first part of the verse, and "Alms" giving in the last part of the verse.The last sentence of that verse bears that out.

    "For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."

    According to what brother Jesse is saying, we get back what we give in Alms (equal exchange).

    However, it is "Seed giving" that we receive the "hundredfold, sixtyfold, thirtyfold" return.

    Tithing simply obligates God to supply all of our "NEEDS", but our overflow, if you will, comes from sowing the Seed; that is, anything beyond the Tithe or Alms.
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    It's wonderful to have no lack. But what about having an abundance to assist others? Or helping to spread the Gospel in the area of Missions.

    Thousands of Missionaries have great lack, I'd love to be able to support a missionary for year or longer if necessary, so they can concentrate on doing God's work without having to be concerned with finances.

    My greatest desire after the Salvation of my entire family is to support Missionary families for long periods of time until they can be worry free about finances. I believe that's the major reason God wants the wealth in the control of His children and not the devil's.
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    When they sowed their seed into good soil they expected different returns based on what kind of seed was involved. With some crops it was 30 times the amount of seed sown, with some it was 60, with some 100. This was if nothing went wrong and it involved a lot of labor. The numbers arent important in the spiritual analogy, they just represent a proper increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    It's wonderful to have no lack. But what about having an abundance to assist others? Or helping to spread the Gospel in the area of Missions.

    Thousands of Missionaries have great lack, I'd love to be able to support a missionary for year or longer if necessary, so they can concentrate on doing God's work without having to be concerned with finances.

    My greatest desire after the Salvation of my entire family is to support Missionary families for long periods of time until they can be worry free about finances. I believe that's the major reason God wants the wealth in the control of His children and not the devil's.
    Amen! That's wonderful!

    I think giving is a matter of the heart, not a matter of numbers and percentages. And we will probably have different opinions of what GOOD GROUND is. I remember once I listened to Leroy Thompson and he tried hard to make me feel like a fool. Giving to the needy (which I have dedicated my life to) was bad ground while I understood that giving to his ministry was good ground. Who says? The Bible encourages us to share with our brothers and sisters and for me helping their children go to school, get a good education and find a job to support their family is good ground --- lots and lots of good fruit. Well, maybe not for ME, but why I do have to be the centre of everything. The idea of giving in order to get something doesn't sit quite right with me. There is plenty of good fruit when we give to missions work like VW says above, although maybe not in our own account. Receiving and being blessed indeed is a result of giving but not the reason why I want to give.

    I love your post, VW! It is a shame that we have to call back home missionaries while God's people live in such abundance as we do in the western world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valiant Woman View Post
    That scripture is from Luke, 6:38.

    I understand what you're saying, but is having no lack in your personal life enough? What kind of giving is Jesus speaking of in this passage? Reading the whole chapter, He isn't talking about just church giving...

    I submit He's speaking about "Seed" giving in the first part of the verse, and "Alms" giving in the last part of the verse.The last sentence of that verse bears that out.

    "For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."

    According to what brother Jesse is saying, we get back what we give in Alms. However, it is Seed giving that we receive the "30, 60, 100" percent return. Tithing simply obligates God to supply all of our "NEEDS", but our overflow, if you will, comes from sowing the Seed; that is, anything beyond the Tithe or Alms.
    sorry about that i was reading right 2 left off my pad....

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