Thread: Do All Things Happen for a Reason?

Do All Things Happen for a Reason?

Will you ever know if something happened for a reason, especially if the reason it happened was so that something else wouldn't happen?

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Doing visitations today, as soon as I got there I remembered someone from church I wanted to see (Aunty G) but there was a person there my oversight wanted me to see so I did that first though I had a planned leaving time.

Anyway lots of different delays but the end result was as I left I came across my sister-in-law who works where "Aunty G" is. Now normally we'd just say g'day in passing but her Uncle is in hospital so we talked of that which enabled me to ask about "Aunty G" and sil invited me to see her. Thing is I couldn't just rock up and ask to see "Aunty G" as I'm not related and unknown as a chaplain in that part of the home and also both my supervisors are away so couldn't take me there.

"Aunty G's" response to the visit was that God sent me and maybe He did, maybe the reason all those things happened was just to bless "Aunty G".

Some may agree, some may say "maybe".

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Years ago now I felt that I should leave work early. Then I felt to go a different way home. Result: I ran into the back of a car. I was OK, the other car drivers were happy to drive off as their dameage was minor.

The work of the devil? Nope, the fullment of a prophesy made at a prophesy conference years before that that I would be in an accident, someone would leave happy but God would protect me. Do you know how scary it is driving the family around knowing that; teaching your son to drive knowing that; not as actually because in December 199... 8 (I think) not only did God tell me I was to have an accident but told me the place and time and the results (which btw included death [of a dog]).

And what I didn't know in 1998 and am just starting to realise now is that what I've learnt from those two events may (I don't know yet) help me give a prophesy next month that I sensed I had to give 18 or so months ago and which the basic words for God gave me in October.

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I spent six years in borading school, it was horrible. A decade+ after becoming a Christian I realised that I was where I was and not elsewhere because of that and where I was was a lot better then elsewhere so .....

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The "it happened for a reason" thing mostly comes up when something that we see as being "bad" happens and we want to try help people through it. But bad is realitive, you get the runs, you miss a flight that crashes killing everyone, so "do all things happen for a reason"? a) if something happens I don't know if there is a "reason" for it and neither do you so we can't say, maybe we will know later in time, maybe not; b) "bad" things can happen for a reason; and c) give God a break, He's not a goody-goody-two-shoes, He punishes evil, wasn't it He who said about Ben-hadad that He (God) had devoted him to destruction (1Ki 20:42).

Originally Posted by fuego

Yep. Even the verse we quote "All things work together for the good..." is conditional, although it's not quoted or believed like it's conditional by most Christians. The context is this happens when we allow the Spirit to make intercession for us. No yielding to the Holy Spirit in prayer, then we're not letting Him as you said VW.

God is such a master of taking what the devil meant for evil or any circumstance and it's cause and turning it to the good, that it appears God was in it from the beginning and it was his design the whole time when it wasn't. He's just that good. :)

I was looking for an appropriate entry point -- and here it is. What kind of "master" is God. Which is the more appropriate characterization: Puppetmaster or Chessmaster? I prefer the latter ;)

Originally Posted by Jonathan david

I was looking for an appropriate entry point -- and here it is. What kind of "master" is God. Which is the more appropriate characterization: Puppetmaster or Chessmaster? I prefer the latter ;)

Right. And from my view, a chessmaster that will checkmate any move the devil makes if we just allow the Spirit to make intercession through us.

That's quite a narrative from 11:30 to 17:30 but I have no clue where any of it is found in the Bible..

In a word? Nope.

"sunantilambanomai" -- not to be confused with "sublapsarianism"

*sigh..

NO one, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON, thinks God is a puppetmaster. It is a gross misinterpretation of what the doctrine is.

NO one negates our responsibility for our own sin.

I sure wish you'd stop building that straw man to light on fire.

That doesnt make any sense.

Originally Posted by Femme*

*sigh..

NO one, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON, thinks God is a puppetmaster. It is a gross misinterpretation of what the doctrine is.

NO one negates our responsibility for our own sin.

I sure wish you'd stop building that straw man to light on fire.

Listening to some folk, it makes you wonder -- yes there is a spectrum of beliefs here. Think I heard one too many Piper videos.