Thread: GIANTS?

I believe Genesis 6 means exactly what it says. Sons of God (angels) had sex with human women and produced giants.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Thats even worse ! Youre accusing the Jews of killing their own citizens during their youth because of being genetically impure rather than based on their actions in and of themselves and so that they will not reproduce. That is horrible. This is the first time Ive heard that rendition of the verse.
The Bible declares that we are ALL genetically corrupted since Adam and Eve fell, we ALL inherit the corrupted sinful nature through our genes and we are ALL capable of corrupting our ways to where we become murderers like Cain who was the son of Adam and Eve and a murderer way before the events referred to in Genesis 6. We are ALL of bad seed and the only thing that can undo that is the new birth.

I didn't say anything about genetics bro. God said "Put away the evil from you". He didn't want their rebellion to spread among the people. He knew how contagious rebellion is because of satan and 1/3 of the angels having to be dealt with.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Are you a son of God ?

If so then what distinguishes you from those who are merely sons or daughters of men ? Merely mortals, as Psalm 82 talks about :

6 I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
7 But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”

In the OT God did not call any humans the sons of God. He did repeatedly refer to the angels in that way though.

Now, when we are born again we become His sons and daughters. But when Jesus first started teaching about "Our Father in heaven" it was a foreign concept to them.

Here is what I started putting together yesterday.

Today I would like to look at what the bible has to say about giants.

Genesis 6:1-4
6 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants (Nephilim) on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

The first thing we need to settle is who are these “sons of God” that the bible is talking about?

Job 1:6-7
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan (Lit:the adversary) also came among them. 7 And the LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?”
So Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it.”

So here we see that the sons of God came before Him, and the setting appears to be Heaven. This is made clearer by looking at satan’s response: “From going to and fro on the earth”.

The only human being referred to as the son of God in the OT was Adam (Luke 3:38).
The OT mindset casts us as “sons of man” and the angels as “sons of God”
Jesus Christ was both, and most often referred to Himself as the Son of man during His earthly ministry.
Verse 2 of Genesis 6 differentiates between the two, however using “daughters” instead of sons.
2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
In today’s language, this would be; “the angels of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.”
Verse 4 of our opening passage of scripture declares that “there were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them.”
Who bore children, and who fathered these children?

I believe we find 2 references to this cross-breeding in the NT:

Jude 5-7 & 2 Peter 2:4-9
Jude 5-7
5 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


Verses 6&7 boil down like this:

And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Someone is thinking; “You just left out half of that passage of scripture to make your point!” But I didn’t. Let’s look at the context of what I left out:
“as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these”

What was the sin of Sodom, Gomorrah and the cities around them?


Genesis 18:20-21
20 And the LORD said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, 21 I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”

Genesis 19:1-11
19 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground. 2 And he said, “Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant’s house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way.”
And they said, “No, but we will spend the night in the open square.”

3 But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.

4 Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. 5 And they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally.”

6 So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him, 7 and said, “Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly! 8 See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof.”

9 And they said, “Stand back!” Then they said, “This one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as a judge; now we will deal worse with you than with them.” So they pressed hard against the man Lot, and came near to break down the door.
10 But the men reached out their hands and pulled Lot into the house with them, and shut the door.

11 And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they became weary trying to find the door.

What was the sin of Sodom, Gomorrah and the cities around them?
Sexual immorality; they went after strange flesh! And this is what Jude was saying about these fallen angels, that they had committed sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh.
They did this, as recorded in Genesis 6, but it also says that they also did it afterwards.
There is one scripture in the NT that people have taken to declare that angels cannot mate.

Matthew 22:30-“For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.”

But what happens when we put that verse into context with what Jesus was saying?

Matthew 22:23-30
23 The same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Him and asked Him, 24 saying: “Teacher, Moses said that if a man dies, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up offspring for his brother.

25 Now there were with us seven brothers. The first died after he had married, and having no offspring, left his wife to his brother. 26 Likewise the second also, and the third, even to the seventh. 27 Last of all the woman died also. 28 Therefore, in the resurrection, whose wife of the seven will she be? For they all had her.”


29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven.

Is Jesus saying that we will be genderless after the resurrection?
Or is there something more important for us to grasp?
Have you ever wondered why the most noticeable sins that we seem to come across are sexual sins? Have you seen how much we are exhorted to flee from sexual immorality in the epistles?
It is the will of God for our lives that we abstain from sexual immorality and learn how to “possess our vessels” (control our own bodies) in honor and sanctification, not in passion of lust, like the gentiles who do not know God. -1 Thessalonians 4:3-6.
Why do you think that this is the will of God for our lives?
Could it be that He is looking for a Holy people who will not be prone to sexual temptations in the next life?