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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecali View Post
    I'm going to be a little more generous then the rest of you.

    I'll wait until after the inauguration, then I want their feedback.

    I doubt they can recover from this one. A lot of ministries will be ruined. I can't see how or why they ALL would risk everything to put their neck on the line? Their livelihoods, reputations??

    Can we say none of them heard from God?

    If they missed it, get the stones ready. People are going to be angry and unforgiving. They will take vengeance out on them. If they end up right, it will be historical and they will treated like canonized saints.

    I don't know what to think but I do feel something is strange. It's just a feeling. I'm not saying it's God. There's just so many bizarre things happening.

    Here's the prophets ive heard say there's going to be a sudden turn:

    Tracy Cooke
    Hank Kennumen
    Jeff Jansen
    Kat Kerr
    Kent Christmas
    Jonny Enlow
    Robin Bullock
    Marcus Rogers
    Mario Murillo
    Lance Wallnau
    Robbie Dawkins
    Chuck sheets

    There may be more but this is the ones I can think of off the top.
    Lance Wallnau has never predicted a trump win likewise mario Murillo they have always predicated it on the church's behavior

    Dutch Sheets also never quite predicted a trump win he has simply stood in faith

    Katt Kerr , bullock and enlow have made it clear he wins Not sure about the others

    That said it would be a huge blow to the prophetic movement nonetheless which is my bigger concern beyond trump

    I am still believing for a miracle

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    Quote Originally Posted by krystian View Post
    Well said...it's like their attitude is, well it looks bad so I might as well call it a day instead of using their faith and seeing what actually does happen.
    Yes. Based on the scripture ..

    Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    So he had dreams and visions that said one thing but he concludes he was wrong based on circumstances? No, I trust those willing to take the sword more at this point unless they have a better reason to change...and current events, IMHO are simply not that.
    I think you missed the point that God showed him that if Trump didn't humble himself he would not get a second term, but end up looking like a madman (Nebuchednezar).

    Mrs. Zeke has been saying that the president needs to humble himself for quite a while now because God humbles the proud and gives grace to the humble. JJ confirms this with what the Lord showed him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I think you missed the point that God showed him that if Trump didn't humble himself he would not get a second term, but end up looking like a madman (Nebuchednezar).

    I struggle with believing the above statement by JJ is from God. I know it applies to Trump but it also applies to all politicians that they should humble themselves.
    Why does God make a issue of Trump and not Obama who was puffed up with pride and promoted LGBTQ and idolised by tens of millions of Democrat voters, celebrities, media and around the world.
    Obama served 2 terms, The same applies to Bill Clinton.

    The world loved Obama and idolised him to a sickening degree and many places hate Trump.
    What about hypocrite Catholic politicians in power for decades like Pelosi who promote abortion...why wasn't she removed for her arrogance etc.???

    It just seems too predictable to come out with those sort of prophetic utterances - how does anyone really test that word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    I struggle with believing the above statement by JJ is from God. I know it applies to Trump but it also applies to all politicians that they should humble themselves.
    Why does God make a issue of Trump and not Obama who was puffed up with pride and promoted LGBTQ and idolised by tens of millions of Democrat voters, celebrities, media and around the world.
    Obama served 2 terms, The same applies to Bill Clinton.

    The world loved Obama and idolised him to a sickening degree and many places hate Trump.
    What about hypocrite Catholic politicians in power for decades like Pelosi who promote abortion...why wasn't she removed for her arrogance etc.???

    It just seems too predictable to come out with those sort of prophetic utterances - how does anyone really test that word.
    That word was published in one of his books:

    January of 2018
    ***This entire section below is copied and pasted directly from chapter 4 of my book, "Trump, 2019, and Beyond)
    "In early January of 2018, two years into Trump's presidency, I was on a fast and received an open vision of Donald Trump's right hand that began to turn into an IRON FIST. God spoke to me and said, "Trump's grip is going to tighten while the liberal agenda loses its grip." I saw the liberal agenda in America gasping for breath as the Trump agenda (the iron fist) squeezes and suffocates its opponents. I saw desperation, wild accusation, and startling trepidation descend upon Washington. Then I began to see something that both surprised me and caused me to pause. The iron fist of Donald Trump was too much for the American people to bear. The pressure and strength of his grip while at first was reassuring, in the end, it brought great unnecessary destruction.

    "I felt an alarm go off deep within my spirit. God said, "I have raised Donald Trump up for four years as a battering ram and trumpet in this nation, but without a serious sanctification and softening of his heart and words, there will be great trouble and danger that will mark his run for a second term. Even those who were once for him, will see the error of his ways and begin to cry out for his soul. Do not be deceived by the wealth and change that Donald has and will bring to America, for I am after far more than the gifts I have irrevocably given him, I must have his heart so that I can order His steps.

    "The following night after receiving this word, I had a prophetic dream where I saw Donald Trump crawling around on the White House lawn eating grass and acting like an animal. Immediately I cried out to the Lord in the dream and said, 'God, shall Donald Trump become like Nebuchadnezzar? Shall he become so consumed with his success that he begins to credit his accomplishments to his own strength and power? Will you remove sovereignty from his life?' "God spoke to me and said, 'Donald Trump is in great danger of becoming like Nebuchadnezzar in the years ahead. He will have great success, but the Church must pray for humility and the Daniel Company to arise. Just like Nebuchadnezzar, if Donald breaks away from his sins by doing righteously and showing mercy to the poor, I will prolong his prosperity.' (Dan 4:27).

    "I woke up from the prophetic dream with a tremendous burden upon my heart. To be honest, I could not believe what I just received. Could Donald Trump have been raised up by God Himself like a Cyrus and bring necessary change to America, but through his own pride, arrogance, and forsaking of the poor end as a type of Nebuchadnezzar? The answer is: ABSOLUTELY. The truth is that Donald Trump desperately needs our prayers more than many care to realize. The truth is that many in the Church are guilty of idolizing and worshipping Donald Trump as the savior of America. "While I do believe that Donald Trump could win a second term, I also sense strongly that there is potential great danger and trouble ahead for America if he is re-elected."
    Commentary: This prophetic dream from 2018 that I received and published was obviously a warning dream with very clear directives and insights. Upon its release in 2018, it was also primarily rejected by a majority of those who rejoiced at the original prophetic word I received in 2015.

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    My point is why didn't JJ tell us why God was so tough on Trump but not on Obama.
    It seems that God is harder on a Republican president than a Democrat president who served 2 terms.

    Millions of Democrats, media etc etc idolized Obama as the new saviour of the world - why didn't God stop this after 1 term

    You probably guessed it but I'm not convinced all of JJ's dreams were from God - yes they were detailed and impressive but imo how much were natural thoughts projected into his dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I think you missed the point that God showed him that if Trump didn't humble himself he would not get a second term, but end up looking like a madman (Nebuchednezar).

    Mrs. Zeke has been saying that the president needs to humble himself for quite a while now because God humbles the proud and gives grace to the humble. JJ confirms this with what the Lord showed him.
    JJ needs to humble himself.

    I knew there was a reason why I wasn't really feeling him

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    This is good.

    "Be still and know that I am God."



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