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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    When I read JJ's apology a few days ago something occured to me. He gave very specific dreams up until the election was certified by Congress. What I did NOT see in his apology was a specific word from the Lord stating he was wrong. THAT stood out to me like a sore thumb....and causes me to question why he concluded he was wrong? Did he trust circumstances? What say ye?
    Maybe he has concluded like I did at some point, that God simply hasn't told anyone who will or will not be the next President. So he doesn't need to wait for God to tell him anything because God isn't speaking on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    To my great heartache, I'm convinced parts of the prophetic/charismatic movement are far SICKER than I could have ever dreamed of. I truthfully never realized how absolutely triggered and ballistic thousands and thousands of saints get about Donald Trump. It's terrifying! It's full of idolatry!
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    I believe that Trump has become a false Messiah to some. I don't think he actually is anything like that, only that people choose to make him their personal idol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Maybe he has concluded like I did at some point, that God simply hasn't told anyone who will or will not be the next President. So he doesn't need to wait for God to tell him anything because God isn't speaking on the matter.
    So he had dreams and visions that said one thing but he concludes he was wrong based on circumstances? No, I trust those willing to take the sword more at this point unless they have a better reason to change...and current events, IMHO are simply not that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I believe that Trump has become a false Messiah to some. I don't think he actually is anything like that, only that people choose to make him their personal idol.
    I have no idea but I do know believing he is a leader God chose for this season is not THAT but media has claimed that belief and support is a cult....but they do have a motive themselves do they not? I know I am standing my ground at this point and not joining those who say circumstances are proving me wrong because faith in what God says has and should never be based on what we see. I still know God has room to do an amazing thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Agreed, all things in due time. Some folks were stoning the prophets months ago, with a little too much glee.
    And that is a very important point John....the pressure was immense. The motives of those saying see I told you so does not lend any affirmation to the change of mind. Again I ask what was their original position based on and what is their change now based on? Before for many it was sudden divine revelations via dreams or visitations that some of them were not even asking for....and now they change their mind because the election was 'certified'?

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    I believe JJ just set an example for the whole church to follow. I would stand beside this brother any day and lift up his hands while the battle rages on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekiel 33 View Post
    I believe JJ just set an example for the whole church to follow. I would stand beside this brother any day and lift up his hands while the battle rages on.
    I agree IF he is right this time. But his prior testimonies and position were prophetic, and this one seems to be driven by circumstances. THAT I do not trust. I lift him up in prayer because either way he faced a huge battle. I just believe he may have shifted from offense to defense....

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    Trump is speaking this afternoon in Texas. It will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    I agree IF he is right this time. But his prior testimonies and position were prophetic, and this one seems to be driven by circumstances. THAT I do not trust. I lift him up in prayer because either way he faced a huge battle. I just believe he may have shifted from offense to defense....
    He kind of muddies up his apology with this attitude..

    To my great heartache, I'm convinced parts of the prophetic/charismatic movement are far SICKER than I could have ever dreamed of. I truthfully never realized how absolutely triggered and ballistic thousands and thousands of saints get about Donald Trump. It's terrifying! It's full of idolatry!
    >>he may have shifted from offense to defense.

    Sounds the opposite.

    The brother could have just said "I understand the anger". Time is needed to sort all of this out.

    Never mind that he hopped right back on the horse, prophesying to the saints minutes after his apology, I would expect any minister to take a step back in these circumstances and reflect/reconnect with the Head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    ... I truthfully never realized how absolutely triggered and ballistic thousands and thousands of Saints get about Donald Trump. It's terrifying! It's full of idolatry!
    Amen! - It reminds me of the same "Messiah-like" attitude towards President Obama a few years ago.

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