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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Todd's supporters are exposing some of the people who have turned against Todd.

    Stephen Powell was in Todd's network but went public about Todd's sins.
    But he forgot to mention Todd asked him to leave because while ministering in Australia he had a 'Apostle Paul experience' where he felt called to rebuke ministries.

    This has all happened in the last 12-24 months and he returned to the US and rebuked Bill Johnson publically.
    Todd was shocked and had to ask him to leave ....surprise surprise Stephen was the first person to expose Todd but why didn't he expose Todd before he was asked to leave.

    Some other wacko things Stephen has also said....needs to step down and get his life in order

    Whole thing is embarrassing and crazy
    Is there any reason to believe that Powell's accusations against Bentley are anything less than truthful ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Is there any reason to believe that Powell's accusations against Bentley are anything less than truthful ?
    Colonel ... I edited my comment can you change the above quote to reflect that

    In regard to your question....
    I make it very clear that Todd is guilty and thankfully he has gone on video and admitted and confessed his sins - I heard him

    Stephen Powell is not a man of character from what has been exposed about him. Because he said the truth about Todd that does not dismiss his own past deception and lack of accountability in his own life. If you throw stones you better have clean hands yourself.

    There has been 3 MAJOR SERIOUS allegations that have been neglected.
    1. Accusations that Todd and his wife Jessa were swingers.
    2. Accusations that Todd was involved in homosexuality
    3. Accusations that Todd was involved in pedophilia

    Why didn't the panel comment - these are Major offenses that should be either dismissed or verified.

    Is it righteous to leave his wife suffering without exoneration and leave people believing Todd is guilty of the above - they are either true or false
    Why was his wife's pain and anguish not considered if she is indeed innocent????

    Why is abuse and slander of his wife and Todd not corrected if they are innocent of the above?

    God is TRUTH and that means the whole truth


    BTW I have posted the above questions to both Dr Brown and Stephen Powell on their FB page - a first for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Colonel ... I edited my comment can you change the above quote to reflect that

    In regard to your question....
    I make it very clear that Todd is guilty and thankfully he has gone on video and admitted and confessed his sins - I heard him

    Stephen Powell is not a man of character from what has been exposed about him. Because he said the truth about Todd that does not dismiss his own past deception and lack of accountability in his own life. If you throw stones you better have clean hands yourself.

    There has been 3 MAJOR SERIOUS allegations that have been neglected.
    1. Accusations that Todd and his wife Jessa were swingers.
    2. Accusations that Todd was involved in homosexuality
    3. Accusations that Todd was involved in pedophilia

    Why didn't the panel comment - these are Major offenses that should be either dismissed or verified.

    Is it righteous to leave his wife suffering without exoneration and leave people believing Todd is guilty of the above - they are either true or false
    Why was his wife's pain and anguish not considered if she is indeed innocent????

    Why is abuse and slander of his wife and Todd not corrected if they are innocent of the above?

    God is TRUTH and that means the whole truth


    BTW I have posted the above questions to both Dr Brown and Stephen Powell on their FB page - a first for me
    I see that you added that Todd Bentley is guilty but that doesn't necessarily mean that everything Stephen Powell has said about him is correct.

    Regarding the accusation of homosexuality some would say that since it's already adultery (not just fornication) then it doesn't matter much which gender. And that if his wife is a swinger then it doesn't place Bentley in a new category and as far as I know his wife isn't being investigated. Pedophilia, are there accusations involving minors or outright children ? Maybe they are ignoring that because they didn't find anything.

    Maybe Powell left because he felt or even knew that blowing the whistle while staying within that organization would create a lot more problems for him. To stay and fight can be a daunting task. And whatever his motivations were, he did blow the whistle. Who knows for how long things would have continued if he hadn't had the zeal to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    I see that you added that Todd Bentley is guilty but that doesn't necessarily mean that everything Stephen Powell has said about him is correct.

    Regarding the accusation of homosexuality some would say that since it's already adultery (not just fornication) then it doesn't matter much which gender. And that if his wife is a swinger then it doesn't place Bentley in a new category and as far as I know his wife isn't being investigated. Pedophilia, are there accusations involving minors or outright children ? Maybe they are ignoring that because they didn't find anything.

    Maybe Powell left because he felt or even knew that blowing the whistle while staying within that organization would create a lot more problems for him. To stay and fight can be a daunting task. And whatever his motivations were, he did blow the whistle. Who knows for how long things would have continued if he hadn't had the zeal to do so.

    A person can be guilty of a sin but it is still slander if that person is accused of other sins without evidence.
    God hates lying and only speaks truth.
    The problem is many of Todd's accusers are speaking the truth and also slandering - that is sin in God's eyes

    If Todd is indeed guiltily of these 3 other things then there should be evidence and witnesses.
    Also we cannot ignore his wife and let terrible insinuations be over her life without proving the validity or falsehood of them.

    This to me is basic scriptural honesty and integrity

    John 7:24 - Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.

    Imagine a policeman gives you a ticket for speeding.
    A week later you get a court summons for drink driving. You know you are guilty of speeding but should you accept the lie of drink driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    A person can be guilty of a sin but it is still slander if that person is accused of other sins without evidence.
    God hates lying and only speaks truth.
    The problem is many of Todd's accusers are speaking the truth and also slandering - that is sin in God's eyes

    If Todd is indeed guiltily of these 3 other things then there should be evidence and witnesses.
    Also we cannot ignore his wife and let terrible insinuations be over her life without proving the validity or falsehood of them.

    This to me is basic scriptural honesty and integrity

    John 7:24 - Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.

    Imagine a policeman gives you a ticket for speeding.
    A week later you get a court summons for drink driving. You know you are guilty of speeding but should you accept the lie of drink driving.
    I agree that to Todd Bentley the gender question might matter a lot if he only chased women. But it's important to not downplay adultery based on it involving the opposite gender and nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    But it's important to not downplay adultery based on it involving the opposite gender and nothing more.
    Not about downplaying its about accusing the person of the sins he committed not adding false ones.
    Even secular society only charges a person with the crimes he committed. You don't add similar crimes to the list if they are not true

    Todd is guilty of sins a,b,c - the church needs to deal with the actual sins.
    It is totally unrighteous and unscriptural to add sins x,y,z to Todd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    I am writing this because I feel some grief in my heart. I believe I am far enough away and removed from the situation to stay impartial and unbiased.
    Todd is guilty but what is transpiring doesn't sit well with me.

    I want to comment about Stephen Powell (since he has gone public). I can't recall hearing of his name previously.
    Stephen was the first minister to go public about Todd's sins and get the ball rolling.

    Stephen belonged to Todd's network and about 18 months ago while ministering in Australia he had a 'Apostle Paul experience' where he felt called to rebuke ministries.
    He returned to the US and under his 'new mantle' rebuked Bill Johnson publicly.

    Todd became aware as it caused some concern. Todd tried to reason with Stephen but he wouldn't listen so he was asked to leave the network.
    Surprise surprise Stephen then begins to reveal what he knows about Todd.

    Now Stephen SHOULD of revealed this about Todd but why wait until he left the network. He then gathers others around him to expose Todd.

    Why I am bringing this up - because there is alot of self righteousness and arrogance I can see by some of Todd's former friends and now accusers.

    I looked at his FB page and well as another past friend and they are not reflecting humility - its all about justifying themselves how Todd has been caught out and there is a sense they are in the right and God stands with them.

    Todd needed to be caught out, exposed, rebuked and disciplined but the way some of these ministers are carrying on makes me grieve.

    God hates sexual sin but he also hates self righteousness, pride and wanting to justify yourself by putting someone down.
    As I read some of their FB friends comments many are deluded and can't see the self righteous justification.

    Stephen and others need some serious soul reaching as they point the finger - they also need time out to get their own lives right

    Todd is guilty of serious sexual sin but some of his accusers are not free from their own carnality
    Whats known as "Log and Speck" syndrome???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Not about downplaying its about accusing the person of the sins he committed not adding false ones.
    Even secular society only charges a person with the crimes he committed. You don't add similar crimes to the list if they are not true

    Todd is guilty of sins a,b,c - the church needs to deal with the actual sins.
    It is totally unrighteous and unscriptural to add sins x,y,z to Todd
    Oh, I thought the allegation was that the panel had ignored those three things - which is different to what you said now. From what I read earlier Bentley has indeed been accused of homosexual advances by at least one specific man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Oh, I thought the allegation was that the panel had ignored those three things - which is different to what you said now. From what I read earlier Bentley has indeed been accused of homosexual advances by at least one specific man.

    If True that needed to be addressed scripturally

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    Have been commenting on a guy's FB page called Ron Cantor who is a friend of Micheal Brown.
    I have challenged him about his original videos on Todd and he obviously doesn't like it. Imo he wanted to bring Todd down and did not remain impartial.

    He has a valid point about Todd's first family which I support him but he shows no concern for his his second wife and family

    We are to operate in truth and righteousness in exposing a persons sins and there is unrighteousness occurring on both sides by Todd's defenders and Todd's detractors

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