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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    It seems that he's a victim of science worship, science worshipping atheists have an explanation for anything and everything, the question is if people buy into the mindset.
    You will find that science becomes an excuse to stop believing but questionings about scripture have been happening in the heart for awhile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    You will find that science becomes an excuse to stop believing but questionings about scripture have been happening in the heart for awhile
    At least they have put up an entire alternative religion for people to believe in that cancels out everything else for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Which included something by reformationcharlotte :

    "FROM REFORMATION CHARLOTTE: In the wake of a recent attack by celebrity Ellen Page against Chris Pratt, an attendee of Hillsong Church, who called Pratt's church "infamously anti-LGBTQ," Hillsong released a statement denying this."
    Well ... excuuussse me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    At least they have put up an entire alternative religion for people to believe in that cancels out everything else for them.
    It starts with atheism as a basic premise, continues with popular science then comes up with ridiculous explanations to finish it off, like any and every miracle being attributable to a placebo effect. Or just what my church has heard from medical authorities several times "Brain cancer disappeared ? Well things like that simply happen now and then". It's a belief system.

    There's some room for new age beliefs at the fringes so maybe they will make the Antichrist some sort of atheistic superman wielding forces acceptable to their religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Why all the negativism ?
    Why is my observation 'negative'? If that's the case there are many verses in the Bible that are 'negative'. Are we supposed to ignore those particular scriptures and not talk about them because they are 'negative'?

    One of the many reasons I'm 'negative' is because of what is being taught today about grace, holiness, sin, that isn't even scriptural. You have a whole generation of 'believers' being raised on a lot of false teaching. That's one thing that will certainly cause it. The Bible also talks about a great falling away. You don't 'fall away' from something you've never been to so that would obviously be talking about people that profess Jesus.

    Sorry for being so 'negative'.

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    I think part of this is the move to more "touchy feely" than keeping to sound doctrine.

    It's when the "how does it make you feel" etc, etc, etc that's a real problem. Takes the focus off What does God (Bible) say.

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    Quite possibly the love of God was not in him. Instead, love for power, applause, fame...etc. Apostle Paul mentioned "false brethren" in 2Cor11, maybe we are seeing the sifting and sorting of them from the true flock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    Why is my observation 'negative'? If that's the case there are many verses in the Bible that are 'negative'. Are we supposed to ignore those particular scriptures and not talk about them because they are 'negative'?

    One of the many reasons I'm 'negative' is because of what is being taught today about grace, holiness, sin, that isn't even scriptural. You have a whole generation of 'believers' being raised on a lot of false teaching. That's one thing that will certainly cause it. The Bible also talks about a great falling away. You don't 'fall away' from something you've never been to so that would obviously be talking about people that profess Jesus.

    Sorry for being so 'negative'.
    You don't know if the "great falling away" happens now or a hundred years from now, just like the early Pentecostals didn't know if Jesus would return in 1918, 2018 or 2118, they just thought they knew since there was a Great War going on.

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    I think many of you will find the article below refreshing:

    Skillet’s Lead Singer Gives Christians a Reality Check After Faith Influencers Publicly Abandon the Faith
    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_mor...abandon-faith/

    One of things he says is:

    My conclusion for the church(all of us Christians): We must STOP making worship leaders and thought leaders or influencers or cool people or “relevant” people the most influential people in Christendom. (And yes that includes people like me!) I’ve been saying for 20 years(and seemed probably quite judgmental to some of my peers) that we are in a dangerous place when the church is looking to 20 year old worship singers as our source of truth. We now have a church culture that learns who God is from singing modern praise songs rather than from the teachings of the Word. I’m not being rude to my worship leader friends (many who would agree with me) in saying that singers and musicians are good at communicating emotion and feeling. We create a moment and a vehicle for God to speak. However, singers are not always the best people to write solid bible truth and doctrine. Sometimes we are too young, too ignorant of scripture, too unaware, or too unconcerned about the purity of scripture and the holiness of the God we are singing to. Have you ever considered the disrespect of singing songs to God that are untrue of His character?
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