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    Rachel Held Evans

    I don't know if you all have heard of her, but she considered herself a "progressive Christian"...

    I read some of her writings a couple of years ago, some things I agreed with, some I didn't. I had heard a couple of weeks ago that she was ill, but just found out she passed last week at age 37. Too young. If someone already posted about her passing, my apologies. I've been away too long and there are too many threads to try to catch up on.


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    Just read an article about her by Michael Brown last night. I don't think I had ever heard of her.


    Reflecting on the Death of a Progressive Christian

    Rachel Held Evans, wife, mother, blogger, and influential Christian author, is dead at the age of 37. Although we never met, and despite our serious theological differences, I am truly saddened by her passing. It was just last month she was hospitalized with the flu, and that quickly, she is gone.

    Respectful Disagreement
    My ministry reached out to her on more than one occasion to dialogue about our differences, but without success. At no point, though, did I question Rachel's sincerity. That she came to very different conclusions than I (and other evangelicals) did, especially in terms of God's view of LGBT issues, was a cause of deep concern, given her influence. But I always felt she arrived at her (wrong) conclusions after wrestling with Scripture and interacting with people...

    https://stream.org/reflecting-death-...VJXhcn68B5gjkc

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    "Rachel was "for" knowledge. An irrepressible learner, she delighted in theology. She wrestled with sacred texts and peppered scholars with questions, in a way that put seminarians and journalists to shame. Her intellect was remarkable, and her humble discipline and steady (if often incorrect) refusal to believe she was the smartest person in the room made her formidable.

    Rachel was "for" Dayton, the small town in East Tennessee where she'd lived since age 14. She loved its green, rolling landscape and especially its people. Outsiders might have asked how a progressive daughter of a conservative town could feel so at home, but to Rachel, the question answered itself: She may have disagreed with them sometimes, but Dayton's people were her people. She honored them, wanted the best for them and insistently stayed among them.

    At the same time, all people were Rachel's people. Rachel was "for" an all-embracing vision of Christ's church and the relentless inclusion of refugees and those suffering poverty, of LGBTQ people, of women and especially women of color, of the unseen and unheard and swept-aside. She recognized the real geometry of God. She used her writing to build the bridges so many of us needed to get back to God's love, to one another and to the church. And in a world that covets power, cash and influence, she lavishly gave away all three. She centered the marginalized, quietly offering expertise, introductions, endorsements, speaking invitations, money and more.

    Rachel was "for" knowledge. An irrepressible learner, she delighted in theology. She wrestled with sacred texts and peppered scholars with questions, in a way that put seminarians and journalists to shame. Her intellect was remarkable, and her humble discipline and steady (if often incorrect) refusal to believe she was the smartest person in the room made her formidable.

    Rachel was "for" Dayton, the small town in East Tennessee where she'd lived since age 14. She loved its green, rolling landscape and especially its people. Outsiders might have asked how a progressive daughter of a conservative town could feel so at home, but to Rachel, the question answered itself: She may have disagreed with them sometimes, but Dayton's people were her people. She honored them, wanted the best for them and insistently stayed among them.

    At the same time, all people were Rachel's people. Rachel was "for" an all-embracing vision of Christ's church and the relentless inclusion of refugees and those suffering poverty, of LGBTQ people, of women and especially women of color, of the unseen and unheard and swept-aside. She recognized the real geometry of God. She used her writing to build the bridges so many of us needed to get back to God's love, to one another and to the church. And in a world that covets power, cash and influence, she lavishly gave away all three. She centered the marginalized, quietly offering expertise, introductions, endorsements, speaking invitations, money and more."

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    It is terrible she died so young and left behind children it must be heartbreaking for her husband

    Her death was mentioned on a Christian news page and after doing some checking on what she believed and taught she was in serious error

    I have mentioned it before - Satan's latest and possibly his greatest work of deception is to raise up people who use God's love to spread a false message.
    Lets face it how can you argue with someone who has so much love for everything when it's God's highest quality. You feel guilty disagreeing with them

    According to her fans - Rachel loved and embraced everyone so therefore she was sent from God to teach us something

    But is there something else at work
    Jesus said - IF you love me you will keep my commandments. The greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength

    She took real issues that needed addressing but put her own spin on them - I agree the Church needs more love, kindness and compassion

    Rachel did not truly love the God of the scriptures - Rachel loved the new image and idol of God she created in her heart
    She rejected the God of scripture for the god in her image and likeness - she preached another Jesus

    This new god was calling her to spread this new message and make disciples - the mainstream media loved her, many Christians loved her as it addressed their hurts by the establishment

    Her teachings are a masterstroke of satan - a great deception at work to love what you create and call it god or christ


    Paul warned this would happen

    2Co 11:3 - But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
    2Co 11:4 - For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!

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    Rachel on the left and Nadia Bolz-Weber is Rachel's friend and they 'ministered' and did conferences together where they preached their new message.
    Nadia went to Rachel's hospital bed before she died and anointed her with oil to get healed

    Nadia Bolz-Weber (SHAMELESS af)‏@Sarcasticluther
    We were able to surround her last night. Offered her our touch and tears and song. I anointed her with oil. She was and is well loved.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadia_Bolz-Weber

    In 2018 she called for women to send her their purity rings to be melted down into a vagina sculpture as part of healing the psychic damage of the purity movement of the 1990s. At the Makers conference on Valentine's Day, February 14, 2019, Bolz-Weber gave the sculpture to American feminist and political activist Gloria Steinem.
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    Pardon the language but this is what Nadia recently said: https://www.exposingtheelca.com/expo...d-for-marriage

    So what happened was, I get divorced, like the most amicable divorce you can imagine. No lawyers, no acrimony. It was great, right, it was like actually really lovely. But I get together with my boyfriend and start having sex and it was like 'holy shit,' I was like, it felt like an exfoliation of my whole spirit. I'm like 'This is so good for my brain chemistry, and my body, and my heart. And I’m like fuck man, why in the world would the Church say ‘Don’t do this?’ Like I could tell it was what I needed, and it was so good. And then 10 days later, after we get together...I have to go to Europe for 3 1/2 weeks on a book tour, because the U.K and the German edition of my book came out...3 ½ weeks after years of sexlessness and 10 days of having sex, right, my mind was like swirling, I was like ‘What the fuck is happening?!’"

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    This was a conference Rachel and Nadia co-hosted in April and 10 days later Rachel was in hospital in a coma

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    She had another jesus. What a shame. The worst part is her husband and kids left behind. She now knows the Truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    She had another jesus. What a shame. The worst part is her husband and kids left behind. She now knows the Truth.
    Thats the point and yet many think the Jesus she proclaimed is the biblical Jesus.
    He was the Jesus of her own desires

    One of the biggest challenges I had to face over the years when confronted with scripture and real life experience was...

    Will I continue to believe in the biblical Jesus even though it challenges me to repent and change or will I embrace the Jesus I want because it makes me feel good emotionally

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    She had another jesus. What a shame. The worst part is her husband and kids left behind. She now knows the Truth.
    Indeed!

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    What I don't understand (or maybe I do and don't realize it) is why Rachel had to leave at such a young age, yet Carlton Pearson, who has been around longer, should know better, who teaches far more heresy and IMO is more dangerous than her overall, is still around in his 60's??

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