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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    This is the woman's own testimony : "No, I HAD to have EVERY experience I've had to be the Goddess I AM today... that much is clear."

    Which means that she worships herself. I didn't dig enough to come up with any clear statements as to whether she derives magical powers from herself (as a divinity) or from powers outside herself. But it makes her an idolater - per definition and not just "of the heart" - and that excludes faith in Jesus Christ. It's not that she lives in sin, it's the fact that she cannot possibly be a believer.

    It's a bit different when a Christian decides to lie about something, decides to keep up the lie instead of to repent of it and then dies while still doing exactly that. It could even be something that doesn't really hurt anyone else but it's still a lie and therefore a sin, a sin which this person harbors on and therefore the person is living in this sin.

    Now that the person has died while still harboring on this lie, is the person going to hell in spite of being a believer in Jesus Christ ? I don't think so.
    Once saved, always saved is a false teaching that leads to absurd conclusions as evidenced by your post.
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    Long ago Rich Wilkerson wrote a book in the same flow, “Carnal Christians (and other words that dont go together)”.
    Yep

    For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. (Rom. 8:6-7)
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    There it is.
    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Yep

    For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. (Rom. 8:6-7)

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    Somehow I've gained a Facebook friend who is an admitted witch. Virtually every post of hers contains the "F" word. I'm quite sure she's under demonic influence. I keep her as a friend because at one point she hinted at being terminally ill. I messaged her that I was going to pray for her. No response. I'd still like to keep on my radar though. Especially because I have NO idea how we became friends on FB. It must be a God-thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Once saved, always saved is a false teaching that leads to absurd conclusions as evidenced by your post.
    I don't believe in OSAS. Please don't lie about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    Somehow I've gained a Facebook friend who is an admitted witch. Virtually every post of hers contains the "F" word. I'm quite sure she's under demonic influence. I keep her as a friend because at one point she hinted at being terminally ill. I messaged her that I was going to pray for her. No response. I'd still like to keep on my radar though. Especially because I have NO idea how we became friends on FB. It must be a God-thing.
    Stay with it. She has a foul and tormenting spirit. I perceive she has walked away from God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Amen. But even if that wasn't clear enough, we are told by John in the book of Revelation:

    Revelation 21:8
    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    Basically, you practice witchcraft, you go to hell. No amount of semantics or philosophical arguments can make this any less clear. Nothing in the BIBLE, the book that Christians are supposed to adhere to and hold as their authority for what constitutes Christianity, can even remotely support the idea of a Christian witch.
    I don't disagree with you in principle but I have always wondered about the verse you have quoted and its proper application .

    Does that mean the Christian who ignorantly reads horoscopes which is a form of witchcraft automatically goes to hell ?

    Also consider the following

    Saul in Jerusalem
    26And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple.
    Given that revelation 21:8's list of those going to hell starts with the Fearful and given that the disciples in Acts 9 were afraid would that mean that the disciples at that time were in danger of going to the lake of fire ?

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    A similar list includes "the unrighteous".

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    late to this party (I've been away) and I haven't read the whole..

    Just musing that "Christian Witch" is probably the hugest oxymoron I've ever seen. ever.

    someone needs to get a dictionary to figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme* View Post
    late to this party (I've been away) and I haven't read the whole..

    Just musing that "Christian Witch" is probably the hugest oxymoron I've ever seen. ever.

    someone needs to get a dictionary to figure it out.
    It has the ring of a Nigeria scam. Some times they misspell their emails on purpose to make sure that they only get replies from the most gullible people out there.

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