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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    Good point. What about those who WERE Born Again Christians but become deceived into it?
    That's the next question. :)

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    The Bible is very clear on God's position towards witches and witchcraft:

    1 Samuel 15:23
    For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

    Galatians 5:19-21
    19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
    20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
    21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    God says that witchcraft is a sin and is one that will keep you out of Heaven.

    It just amazes me that professing Christians (as Fuego, via Finney, referred to them) can be so ignorant, deceived, and outright stupid. You absolutely cannot use the tools of the devil while claiming to belong to Christ. So-called Christians either do not read their Bibles anymore or do not believe that the Bible is the authority we are to live by. Either way, Satan is able to deceive people into using his methods while giving them a false security.
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    Can't get more clearer than below

    Paul wrote to warn believers it was possible to start practising these sins and it would lead to eternal death


    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    The Bible is very clear on God's position towards witches and witchcraft:
    1 Samuel 15:23
    For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

    Galatians 5:19-21
    19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
    20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
    21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    God says that witchcraft is a sin and is one that will keep you out of Heaven.

    It just amazes me that professing Christians (as Fuego, via Finney, referred to them) can be so ignorant, deceived, and outright stupid. You absolutely cannot use the tools of the devil while claiming to belong to Christ. So-called Christians either do not read their Bibles anymore or do not believe that the Bible is the authority we are to live by. Either way, Satan is able to deceive people into using his methods while giving them a false security.

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    Idolatry and witchcraft go hand in hand, don't they ? One can be a Christian witch about as much as one can be a Christian Sai Baba follower. Some concepts are simply contradictions in terms.

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    It’s a sign of the great falling away that this is even a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Idolatry and witchcraft go hand in hand, don't they ? One can be a Christian witch about as much as one can be a Christian Sai Baba follower. Some concepts are simply contradictions in terms.
    Exactly. The words don't even belong together. Like putting a square peg in a round hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Can't get more clearer than below

    Paul wrote to warn believers it was possible to start practising these sins and it would lead to eternal death
    Amen. But even if that wasn't clear enough, we are told by John in the book of Revelation:

    Revelation 21:8
    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    Basically, you practice witchcraft, you go to hell. No amount of semantics or philosophical arguments can make this any less clear. Nothing in the BIBLE, the book that Christians are supposed to adhere to and hold as their authority for what constitutes Christianity, can even remotely support the idea of a Christian witch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Exactly. The words don't even belong together. Like putting a square peg in a round hole.
    This is the woman's own testimony : "No, I HAD to have EVERY experience I've had to be the Goddess I AM today... that much is clear."

    Which means that she worships herself. I didn't dig enough to come up with any clear statements as to whether she derives magical powers from herself (as a divinity) or from powers outside herself. But it makes her an idolater - per definition and not just "of the heart" - and that excludes faith in Jesus Christ. It's not that she lives in sin, it's the fact that she cannot possibly be a believer.

    It's a bit different when a Christian decides to lie about something, decides to keep up the lie instead of to repent of it and then dies while still doing exactly that. It could even be something that doesn't really hurt anyone else but it's still a lie and therefore a sin, a sin which this person harbors on and therefore the person is living in this sin.

    Now that the person has died while still harboring on this lie, is the person going to hell in spite of being a believer in Jesus Christ ? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Exactly. The words don't even belong together. Like putting a square peg in a round hole.
    Long ago Rich Wilkerson wrote a book in the same flow, “Carnal Christians (and other words that dont go together)”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireBrand View Post
    Long ago Rich Wilkerson wrote a book in the same flow, “Carnal Christians (and other words that dont go together)”.
    Paul calls them "babes in Christ" in 1 Cor 3 so those words do go together.

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