Thread: Bishop encourages members to wear Nike in support of Kaepernick ad

Originally Posted by FireBrand

I know the facts and haven't forgotten them...

Me too! - I get it, and I understand what/why he's protesting - I just think he chose the wrong time and place to "protest" - Why not call a press conference, go on the talk show circuit, or protest during his "free time?"

If singers, actors, sports figures, etc. want to "take a stand and/or protest," they certainly have every right to do so, but "protesting" while one is supposed to be working - whether it's onstage during a concert, or on the playing field, IMHO, it's not what the fans and sponsors have paid to see them do.

Originally Posted by Romans828

Me too! - I get it, and I understand what/why he's protesting - I just think he chose the wrong time and place to "protest" - Why not call a press conference, go on the talk show circuit, or protest during his "free time?"

If singers, actors, sports figures, etc. want to "take a stand and/or protest," they certainly have every right to do so, but "protesting" while one is supposed to be working - whether it's onstage during a concert, or on the playing field, IMHO, it's not what the fans and sponsors have paid to see them do.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...s_Constitution

I think that's his point--to call attention to the matter of police brutality on POC. How much of an impact do you think it would have if he did it "on his free time"? He was willing (and still is, I think) to stake his whole career on this simple act? And not just him, I'm given to understand. Look I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't watch football at all (unless the Lions are in the playoffs) I'm just here for the discussion. You all wanna burn and cut up your Nike products? go right ahead, it doesn't impact me in the slightest.

What is ridiculous to me is the NFL just saying you can't do it. The NBA players have to stand, it's a rule. They waffle so much trying to be politically correct they're responsible themselves for how long this had drug out. Grow some...well...you know.

Speaking of the NFL... Did anyone see the "new" Male Cheerleaders on Sunday or last night (Monday Night Football)?

Missed them. Did you see them?

Originally Posted by FaithfulOne

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_...s_Constitution

I think that's his point--to call attention to the matter of police brutality on POC. How much of an impact do you think it would have if he did it "on his free time"? He was willing (and still is, I think) to stake his whole career on this simple act? And not just him, I'm given to understand. Look I don't have a dog in this fight, I don't watch football at all (unless the Lions are in the playoffs) I'm just here for the discussion. You all wanna burn and cut up your Nike products? go right ahead, it doesn't impact me in the slightest.

To my knowledge Congress has made no law pertaining to the issue have they? Point is First Amendment is not relevant to the discussion. He certainly has a right to protest and people have a right to say what they think of his protest .

Having said that, Mr Kapernick Isnt telling people what they don't know.

Truth is he will have my support if he chooses to protest police brutality where it matters , IE the mostly democratic party run municipalities where most cases of police brutality take place . But taking his message to a Global audience by disrespecting the flag and anthem simply doesn't fly

There are two institutions you simply dont dishonor no matter what. Those are Your Parents and your Country . I realize that to the left nothing is sacred but if everyone chooses to disrespect the national anthem and the flag what country will we have ?

Should we all start disrespecting the flag because of the Millions of POC that are deliberately targeted for abortion every year ? Point is We can all come up with reasons and grievances to disrespect the flag and anthem if we chose .

Police brutality is not the ONLY thing wrong with America and if statistics are anything to go by its pretty much overblown by the media. As a black man you are far more likely to be killed in a car accident , killed by other black men than by Police

Disrespecting your flag or your anthem is simply a sign of rebellion and nothing more and it goes right in line with the NIHILISTIC vision that the left has for America .

Originally Posted by Romans828

Speaking of the NFL... Did anyone see the "new" Male Cheerleaders on Sunday or last night (Monday Night Football)?

No, but were they wearing too-toos? Or was that to-to, two-two or tutu??

Originally Posted by BAP

To my knowledge Congress has made no law pertaining to the issue have they? Point is First Amendment is not relevant to the discussion. He certainly has a right to protest and people have a right to say what they think of his protest . Oh I think it DOES have relevance. the RIGHT wants to shut up every and anyone that dares criticize the fuehrer..erm..Trump and those that support him out of their own paranoia.

Having said that, Mr Kapernick Isnt telling people what they don't know. So what? He still has a right to protest. Where would we be if MLK listened to his critics and stayed in his church pulpit and not spoken out? Don't you think back then people KNEW segregation was wrong? they did on a basic human level but there were LAWS back then making segregation legal. Oh, but noooo, don't protest (even peacefully) the LAW.

Truth is he will have my support if he chooses to protest police brutality where it matters , IE the mostly democratic party run municipalities where most cases of police brutality take place . But taking his message to a Global audience by disrespecting the flag and anthem simply doesn't fly

Same thought process that motivated protests against the Vietnam War. What happened happened...I swear, some "christians" are more Americanists than Christian. Who holds your allegiance more? God or some nationalist ideology?

There are two institutions you simply dont dishonor no matter what. Those are Your Parents and your Country . I realize that to the left nothing is sacred but if everyone chooses to disrespect the national anthem and the flag what country will we have ? Same response as above.

Should we all start disrespecting the flag because of the Millions of POC that are deliberately targeted for abortion every year ? Point is We can all come up with reasons and grievances to disrespect the flag and anthem if we chose . Again, on a basic human level we all know what's right and wrong. Abortion is basically between a woman and God (if she believes there is one)..even if she does believe there is a God, it's still between her and Him. It's getting quite old that the RIGHT uses abortion to score points with the so-called "evangelical" voters. The "right" doesn't really care how they get votes, or apparently who gets elected POTUS.

Police brutality is not the ONLY thing wrong with America and if statistics are anything to go by its pretty much overblown by the media. As a black man you are far more likely to be killed in a car accident , killed by other black men than by Police Nobody said police brutality is the only thing wrong with America...so now you agree that the U.S has problems. good, that's a start.

Disrespecting your flag or your anthem is simply a sign of rebellion and nothing more and it goes right in line with the NIHILISTIC vision that the left has for America .

Again, to whom does your allegiance lie? And another question, who or what do you worship?



this will be my only response to you BAP. Peace and blessings to you, but I'm not gonna go round and round this mountain, as you so like to do with folk here.

Originally Posted by fuego

Missed them. Did you see them?

Nope!

But to be honest:

1.) I forgot all about them - and 2.) I'm glad I didn't see them - Would have ruined my Football-watching-hot wing-eating afternoon.