Thread: New Age Creeping into the Church?

Light and Vibrations

Many men and women of God have experienced physical shaking and "vibrating" and seen bright light when undergoing a deep spiritual transformation. Others have described sensations like electric shocks when encountering God's presence. This chapter shares experiences by contributors Bill Johnson, Beni Johnson, Cal Pierce, Ellyn Davis, and two other people who have had transformative experiences that involved vibrating, electrical sensations, and light.

http://heavensphysics.com/chapter14/

Sounds

So, how can hearing a sound of a wind create such a unique chain reaction? Again, the answer is clear: a heavenly "sound" can create a heightened level of synesthesia that opens our senses to extreme encounters with the supernatural. As a result, we are enabled to experience God with every fiber of our being.

This is the kind of heavenly sound for which I've been longing. It's a new sound that will trigger our senses to "hear" what we see and "see" what we hear. As a consequence, we will "hear" outside of the realm of just a vibration on our eardrum. We will experience the sound of heaven with our whole spirit, emotions, and physical body. The result will be a fresh expression of Pentecost.

http://heavensphysics.com/chapter10/

Unclaimed Anointings

There are anointings, mantles, revelations and mysteries that have lain unclaimed, literally where they were left, because the generation that walked in them never passed them on. I believe it's possible for us to recover realms of anointing, realms of insight, realms of God that have been untended for decades simply by choosing to reclaim them and perpetuate them for future generations.

http://heavensphysics.com/chapter4/

New Age? New Revelation?

I think we have to be careful about limiting the Holy Spirit in His manifestations. Where we begin to see New Age creeping in is the desire to experience the miracles, and not the Source of the miracles.

Some of the fruit - comments by the hearers..

And then Don Potter (musician from Morningstar Ministries) spoke about music and Heaven’s sound on Friday night. The message was profound about what the enemy has stolen from the Kingdom regarding sound and music. You may have heard (I had not) that it is believed that Hitler’s propaganda people made 440hz the main frequency used in music since Hitler. They changed it (influenced by the enemy) to set people out of harmony with the earth. God created the earth and everything in it on the 432hz frequency where healing can flow through the music. In 440hz it cannot. Instruments today are all tuned to 440hz. This information blew me away. I shared it with the worship leader at my church and he was blown away too and said it makes perfect sense! He is re-tuning their instruments to 432hz… back to the frequency of GOD!

http://heavensphysics.com/chapter7/

The frequency ?

Actually, the more I've studied epigenetics, the more I understand cell vibration/frequencies. "Science" explains what God created. Matter of fact, what I found remarkable was how the science of epigenetics and RNA and DNA programming, literally explains positive confession from a Christian perspective. That blew my mind!

What's pathetic is how new agers understand much more than Christians do, about quantum physics and vibrational frequencies specifically. Facts are facts.....quantum physics is quantum physics. Possessing knowledge and understanding about light travel, frequencies, and how they impact the human cell isn't in and of itself, "new age".

My husband and I also remark how the new agers possess knowledge and application of vibrational frequencies when all of life and everything God created vibrates. Most Christians don't possess that understanding, and will throw stones at something they lack understanding about, because they don't understand or like the verbiage.

If new agers all say that the sky is blue and cumulus clouds are white and fluffy, it's a shock that Christians don't throw a fit about it. So in other words...truth is truth, whether new agers say it or Christans say it.

Originally Posted by CatchyUsername

Actually, the more I've studied epigenetics, the more I understand cell vibration/frequencies. "Science" explains what God created. Matter of fact, what I found remarkable was how the science of epigenetics and RNA and DNA programming, literally explains positive confession from a Christian perspective. That blew my mind!

What's pathetic is how new agers understand much more than Christians do, about quantum physics and vibrational frequencies specifically. Facts are facts.....quantum physics is quantum physics. Possessing knowledge and understanding about light travel, frequencies, and how they impact the human cell isn't in and of itself, "new age".

My husband and I also remark how the new agers possess knowledge and application of vibrational frequencies when all of life and everything God created vibrates. Most Christians don't possess that understanding, and will throw stones at something they lack understanding about, because they don't understand or like the verbiage.

If new agers all say that the sky is blue and cumulus clouds are white and fluffy, it's a shock that Christians don't throw a fit about it. So in other words...truth is truth, whether new agers say it or Christans say it.

Okay, but we need to keep spiritual things separate from things that have to do with the physical world, which includes quantuum mechanics. I have taken several semesters in physics at the college level so I know something about that. To me the OP sounds like a cold discourse on physical or metaphysical things that the author then connects to something spiritual that is supposed to have something to do with Christianity but I somehow doubt that there is much of a connection. At least at the spiritual level.

Originally Posted by John

Light and Vibrations



http://heavensphysics.com/chapter14/

Sounds



http://heavensphysics.com/chapter10/

Unclaimed Anointings



http://heavensphysics.com/chapter4/

New Age? New Revelation?

My first reaction to such claims is that God created all things...So someone manifesting their experience in a way that New agers have laid claim to does not mean it's actually new age..

Satan distorts and mimics the things of God..He has a mimic tongues, he mimics healing power, he mimics prophesy..so up front IMHO it needs to be established that just because Satan has mimicked such things does not mean those manifesting are experiencing him.

Now...there are very unique experiences that are attributed to God...bright lights...falling on ones face...even 'trembling'...

The disciples heard the sound of wind on Pentecost..otherwise how would they be able t write about it or describe the Holy Spirit as cloven tongues of fire?

Originally Posted by CatchyUsername

Actually, the more I've studied epigenetics, the more I understand cell vibration/frequencies. "Science" explains what God created. Matter of fact, what I found remarkable was how the science of epigenetics and RNA and DNA programming, literally explains positive confession from a Christian perspective. That blew my mind!

What's pathetic is how new agers understand much more than Christians do, about quantum physics and vibrational frequencies specifically. Facts are facts.....quantum physics is quantum physics. Possessing knowledge and understanding about light travel, frequencies, and how they impact the human cell isn't in and of itself, "new age".

My husband and I also remark how the new agers possess knowledge and application of vibrational frequencies when all of life and everything God created vibrates. Most Christians don't possess that understanding, and will throw stones at something they lack understanding about, because they don't understand or like the verbiage.

If new agers all say that the sky is blue and cumulus clouds are white and fluffy, it's a shock that Christians don't throw a fit about it. So in other words...truth is truth, whether new agers say it or Christans say it.

Maybe the idea that science is anti-God has caused many to be fearful..but as you said understanding the things God created and how they literally coincide with the scriptures is AWESOME..

Originally Posted by Colonel

Okay, but we need to keep spiritual things separate from things that have to do with the physical world, which includes quantuum mechanics. I have taken several semesters in physics at the college level so I know something about that. To me the OP sounds like a cold discourse on physical or metaphysical things that the author then connects to something spiritual that is supposed to have something to do with Christianity but I somehow doubt that there is much of a connection. At least at the spiritual level.

Okay, but we need to keep spiritual things separate from things that have to do with the physical world

Why?

A worship leader for Rick Joyner explains frequencies.



Scroll it to 19:00 to get an explanation of the various healing/love, etc frequencies.

C heals cancer!

Originally Posted by John

A worship leader for Rick Joyner explains frequencies.



Scroll it to 19:00 to get an explanation of the various healing/love, etc frequencies.

C heals cancer!

IF God designed creation in such a way that His scriptural truths manifest IN creation..does that mean He is no longer the source?

I know when I first started listening to Dr Leaf describe the process of being transformed by the renewing of the mind the idea that we could actually control that process kind of concerned me...but then I realized that by understanding this we can more quickly facilitate and work in agreement with Holy Spirit as He reveals truths that renew the mind...