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    When I think about "New Age" seeping, creeping, crawling into the church, my mind goes to things like Yoga, horoscopes, "The Secret" etc. .... So many Christians think there's no harm in participating in those things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    There had to be something to the shout, as they were to be absolutely silent as they walked around the walls.
    Josh.6:10 But Joshua commanded the people, saying, "You shall not shout nor let your voice be heard nor let a word proceed out of your mouth, until the day I tell you, 'Shout!' Then you shall shout!"

    Josh.6:16 At the seventh time, when the priests blew the trumpets, Joshua said to the people, "Shout! For the Lord has given you the city. 17 The city shall be under the ban, it and all that is in it belongs to the Lord; only Rahab the harlot [e]and all who are with her in the house shall live, because she hid the messengers whom we sent. 18 But as for you, only keep yourselves from the things under the ban, so that you do not [f]covet them and take some of the things under the ban, and make the camp of Israel accursed and bring trouble on it. 19 But all the silver and gold and articles of bronze and iron are holy to the Lord; they shall go into the treasury of the Lord." 20 So the people shouted, and [g]priests blew the trumpets; and when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people shouted with a great shout and the wall fell down [h]flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight [i]ahead, and they took the city.

    So the walls crumbled after their obedience of marching and silence was fulfilled. Then they shouted, the walls crumbled.

    That is the basis for frequencies and vibrations doctrine? That there had to be something to it beyond the power of God?

    You may as well go dip in the Jordan seven times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    When I think about "New Age" seeping, creeping, crawling into the church, my mind goes to things like Yoga, horoscopes, "The Secret" etc. .... So many Christians think there's no harm in participating in those things.
    Apparently not, the frequency, vibration stuff has been a new agey thing for some time, I'd link to a few sites out there but would rather not.

    New Age Creeping into the Church?-kennethfrequency-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    That is the basis for frequencies and vibrations doctrine? That there had to be something to it beyond the power of God?

    You may as well go dip in the Jordan seven times.

    No, I said earlier that I haven't studied all this stuff. I've listened to some teaching but haven't pursued it. I think I also said that obedience was a huge factor. Their obedience COULD have created a vibration that affected the stones.

    I'm just throwing stuff out there. Have you ever been in an arena when tens of thousands of people cheer? There's a vibration you can feel. I've been in worship services where the base is so loud, when you stand in front of the speaker, you can feel it thump on your chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    There had to be something to the shout, as they were to be absolutely silent as they walked around the walls.
    Josh.6:10 But Joshua commanded the people, saying, “You shall not shout nor let your voice be heard nor let a word proceed out of your mouth, until the day I tell you, ‘Shout!’ Then you shall shout!”

    Josh.6:16 At the seventh time, when the priests blew the trumpets, Joshua said to the people, “Shout! For the Lord has given you the city. 17 The city shall be under the ban, it and all that is in it belongs to the Lord; only Rahab the harlot [e]and all who are with her in the house shall live, because she hid the messengers whom we sent. 18 But as for you, only keep yourselves from the things under the ban, so that you do not [f]covet them and take some of the things under the ban, and make the camp of Israel accursed and bring trouble on it. 19 But all the silver and gold and articles of bronze and iron are holy to the Lord; they shall go into the treasury of the Lord.” 20 So the people shouted, and [g]priests blew the trumpets; and when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, the people shouted with a great shout and the wall fell down [h]flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight [i]ahead, and they took the city.

    So the walls crumbled after their obedience of marching and silence was fulfilled. Then they shouted, the walls crumbled.
    According to Heb 11:30 the walls came down according to their faith, not according to their shouting. They could have shouted and not have had faith and nothing would have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    No, I said earlier that I haven't studied all this stuff. I've listened to some teaching but haven't pursued it. I think I also said that obedience was a huge factor. Their obedience COULD have created a vibration that affected the stones.

    I'm just throwing stuff out there. Have you ever been in an arena when tens of thousands of people cheer? There's a vibration you can feel. I've been in worship services where the base is so loud, when you stand in front of the speaker, you can feel it thump on your chest.
    I just don't see why it's so important to focus on the vibration aspect here. You are trying to squeeze something into that that simply isn't there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    According to Heb 11:30 the walls came down according to their faith, not according to their shouting. They could have shouted and not have had faith and nothing would have happened.
    According to her faith the woman with the issue of blood was healed too...faith produces something tangible...it is NOT the thing produced...so it's the SOMETHING that did happen due to their faith that acted on His word..

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    I just don't see why it's so important to focus on the vibration aspect here. You are trying to squeeze something in that simply isn't there.
    Or is something there that some see and other's don't?

    AJ is simply noting that SOMETHING shattered those walls....seems to be a logical question...even children have asked that question and sometimes are not satisfied with /God made them fall'..they want to know how God made them fall..now that is where GOD and science sometimes agree...

    There is an explanation for the flood...there is an explanation for the fire and brimstone that fell on Sodom...God YES! But does that mean God did not cause some natural elements of His creation to manifest that way at that time?

    It is possible there was a combination of voice tones and the trumpets that CAUSED those walls to fall...that does not change the fact that they acted in sheer faith and obedience...for instance, they circled for days..was that necessary or was that needful for them to die to their flesh and doubt and unbelief and just become humbled to the point of total faith and obedience? maybe...maybe their march was a distraction to something structural that the people didn't see...

    God is not threatened by these questions...

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    One thing I know for sure...when God gives revelation it is affirmed both with specific scripture, the voice of the scriptures in general and in complete agreement with His character and nature...so unless any of this is revealed with all three of those components I won't own them or completely dismiss them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quest View Post
    According to her faith the woman with the issue of blood was healed too...faith produces something tangible...it is NOT the thing produced...so it's the SOMETHING that did happen due to their faith that acted on His word..
    The power of God which is very capable of flowing independently of any particular act or physical medium. It seems to flow better through or by way of his servants and according to their faith however, both of which are spiritual in nature. Faith may express itself through obedience to God's stated word and that word may amount to a lot of different things, including shouting.

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