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    Quote Originally Posted by papabrett View Post
    So you must be Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox?

    Maybe Chalcedonian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    The Charismatic Renewal/Movement was a GIFT from God to the denominations who were so shackled in tradition, the Holy Spirit of God was, for the most part, controlled completely out of the churches.


    Where did they get their message? They got it in the denomination they came out of. They came out not about freedom or doctrine, but about CONTROL! They couldn't control the church and they left with their tails between their legs. What a miserable lot.


    The Charismatic Renewal brought LIFE to the people attending the religious denominations and bound in their doctrines and traditions, even Catholicism.

    How could they bring anything to the denominations if they left. They didn't affect the denominations at all. In fact they inspired them to new growth.

    Sometimes it's NECESSARY, for one's own spiritual health, to walk out the denominational doors for freedom. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is FREEDOM!!!

    Most charismatics I know are bound by their own opinions. They have nothing to offer but trouble. Most of them eventually disintegrate or they find a corner somewhere and just survive or they are led by preachers of questionable repute



    Amen and Amen!

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    And you are not bound by your own opinions, Nikos ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    And you are not bound by your own opinions, Nikos ?
    The only thing I am bound to is the Word of the Living God!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    The only thing I am bound to is the Word of the Living God!
    That is what they all say ?

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    You mean like YOURS did? And Mine? Remember before the mid 1600's there were NO denominations...and the majority of them formed in the last 150 years.
    I understand that this discussion is mainly about post-Reformation denominations, but I think it's interesting to note that in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries, prior to the "Constantinization" of the church by Rome, there were numerous sects of Christianity.

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    Where did they get their message? They got it in the denomination they came out of. They came out not about freedom or doctrine, but about CONTROL! They couldn't control the church and they left with their tails between their legs. What a miserable lot.


    How could they bring anything to the denominations if they left. They didn't affect the denominations at all. In fact they inspired them to new growth.

    Most charismatics I know are bound by their own opinions. They have nothing to offer but trouble. Most of them eventually disintegrate or they find a corner somewhere and just survive or they are led by preachers of questionable repute

    Amen and Amen!



    They got their message from the people who brought the renewal movement TO them. And they came out, usually, because the denomination didn't want what they now carried. In my experience, it had nothing to do with controlling the denomination, but rather rejection of them by the people so bound in the doctrine and tradition (read religious spirit) that the now renewed and on fire people had to leave. Rejection of what the Holy Spirit of God had to offer. Tail between their legs and miserable lot? More likely grieved and moving on to where they could operate in the spiritual gifts in relative freedom.


    The fact that they didn't affect the denominations speaks to how steeped in religion, doctrine and tradition the denominations were. When your message is rejected, you shake the dust off your sandals and move on. And I can't speak to the new growth part as it's not part of my experience, except that the denomination I came out of still is alive and well, meeting the needs of those who don't really want to know the TRUE Jesus.

    Nikos, Charismatics are NOT bound by their opinions. They are bound by and dedicated to, the word of God. They are people who are in relationship with Jesus, filled with the Holy Spirit, operating in ALL the gifts and anxious to please God, their heavenly Father. Charismatics don't go looking for trouble, unless you call yearning and seeking for God, some kind of trouble. Your whole last paragraph is, in words I've heard a lot of around here lately, just ridiculous. Charismatics are alive and well and doing some wonderful things around the world. You just have to get off your narrow little soap box and take a look around.

    Amen and Amen!

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    Through experience I can attest to the truth AJ speaks of regarding coming out of the denominations. I attended FGBI meetings a lot during the CR. The most common occurrence was that the majority of Spirit filled believers were cold shouldered out of their denominations. I did know some who attended their churches and then met with Spirit filled believers elsewhere. I also knew of at least one person who decided to go back to her denom. (as in go back)

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    The denoms today are going the wrong way today being influenced by the pompous charismatic splits. It is the very reason there is a need for revival in the churches. If denoms would have left the charismatics alone and let them go on into their strange beliefs, and if they would have stuck with the truth that they were born in, they would be okay.
    Yes the denoms are the only ones that are making any progress today. Yet the charismatics tend to drag down the true denom churches and even though they are not a part of them they have an impact on them. I say leave the error ridden charismatic splits alone. Don't even fellowship with them. They have gone after their own devices. The last day revival, if there is one, will be in the denominations not in the charismatic churches who have followed man and gone into biblical error. God is still working with the denoms who were born in revival.

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    Acts 42 - 47
    And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers. Then fear came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were done through the apostles. Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.

    Now that we have what the church is and how it functions together for the life of me i cant c a denom raising its ugly head here. altho i must confess john the southern baptist threw a monkey wrench n2 the melting pot. tradition has it thats how lifeway bookstores got started but thats just a tradition i read n a church history book i once read (bought at a lifeway bookstore i mite add) ....

    p.s. im sure someone here will vouch 4 Jesus as he is the alpha and omega of denoms.... rumor has it he began the reformed bush worship movement i am n....


    now back 2 my popcorn and strong drink..... even now i can feel the "spirits" move....

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