Thread: Baptist scholar says Mormonism becoming more Christain

We spent a week with a Mormon family last year. The day came when he brought up theology. On every issue I brought up, he agreed with me. The plan of salvation, the Holy Spirit, just about every topic we discussed. I still think they're a cult, but maybe there's hope they can change. The Worldwide Church of God was a cult that split when many left to become born again. It could happen again.

I hope it happens and would love to see Mormonism destroyed but they will never be real Christians unless Joseph Smith is regarded as a false prophet deceived by satan.

Even though they use all the right terminology the spirit behind is demonic. Satan doesn't care if you use the name of Jesus because there is no power in the Mormon Jesus.

The Mormon Jesus is just as demonic and idolatrous as the Hindu false god Krishna

Information society and the cultural melting pot means that people's beliefs don't necessarily stay in line with what their group designation suggests. Modern Catholics often believe something that is closer to modern protestantism than what the early reformers did, they are a great example of this phenomenon. There are Mormons that are so in name only and some may hold largely to Protestant beliefs while failing to disown their Mormon background completely. Go ahead and set them straight but let God sort them all out in the end.

Originally Posted by Colonel

Information society and the cultural melting pot means that people's beliefs don't necessarily stay in line with what their group designation suggests. Modern Catholics often believe something that is closer to modern protestantism than what the early reformers did, they are a great example of this phenomenon. There are Mormons that are so in name only and some may hold largely to Protestant beliefs while failing to disown their Mormon background completely. Go ahead and set them straight but let God sort them all out in the end.

There is is a difference between Catholics and Mormons a huge difference - the spirit behind Mormonism is totally demonic. Catholics hold to basic doctrine of the faith and can still be saved.

Do you had any evidence of Mormons holding to Protestant beliefs as far as basic doctrines?

Paul even warned the church about people who had a different Jesus, different gospel and different spirit.

The Holy Spirit can NEVER confirm Mormonism and does not indwell Mormons no matter how much they sound like the gospel

Originally Posted by Bookman

We spent a week with a Mormon family last year. The day came when he brought up theology. On every issue I brought up, he agreed with me. The plan of salvation, the Holy Spirit, just about every topic we discussed. I still think they're a cult, but maybe there's hope they can change. The Worldwide Church of God was a cult that split when many left to become born again. It could happen again.

I don't see how.. really.

their god is not Jehovah of the Bible. Nor is their Jesus the same one we worship.

They use all the same terminology, but when you start looking at definitions, it's not the same thing at all.

I read the article and found it lacking in any evidence that the Mormon church leadership has changed any of their tenants of faith...

What he described sounded more like, Mormons and Christians are becoming more accepting of one another and some the more harsh tenants of faith are being enforced less...

A change in core beliefs is one thing....a change in how we present those to the world is another different matter. The
non-Christian tenants of faith of Mormons is not underwear...

God was once a man who lived on another planet

We are co-eternal with God

Jesus was born from a physical union with God and Mary...(God has a physical body because He was a man)

ETC....

My point is IF a Mormon encounters Jesus and is saved they cannot continue to embrace these lies...they have to depart this cultish belief because the Spirit of truth will compel them to do so.

They may shift from within, as in leaven....but Mormonism itself as an organization, a cult, is not...

I think we need to be as Paul was with the Athenians declaring the 'unknown God' rather than attacking the others..but at some point to embrace the God Paul preached one must renounce them themselves..

I heard a master deceiver on YouTube last week....his speech was SOOOO compelling....and deceptive....but the Jesus he believed in was not the sacrificial redeemer...in fact he did not believe Jesus had to die at all...that God did not require a sacrifice, the shedding of blood, for us because we were 'good' in our core being.....

Same terminology used in teaching Prayer and transformation...but a different Jesus, a different God..as femme said, they use the same terminology but the essential core belief shifts from the real Jesus to a faux one...

In my opinion it is Christianity that is shifting by embracing other 'faiths'...

Originally Posted by Cardinal TT

There is is a difference between Catholics and Mormons a huge difference - the spirit behind Mormonism is totally demonic. Catholics hold to basic doctrine of the faith and can still be saved.

Do you had any evidence of Mormons holding to Protestant beliefs as far as basic doctrines?

Paul even warned the church about people who had a different Jesus, different gospel and different spirit.

The Holy Spirit can NEVER confirm Mormonism and does not indwell Mormons no matter how much they sound like the gospel

Mormons would be a special case. Some may have a Mormon background without ever having believed actively, then they either study evangelical Christianity or hang around evangelicals and the result may be a transition from what they are used to and towards evangelical beliefs. This should result in a disavowing of Mormonism but doesn't necessarily do so. Some Mormons will sounds like evangelicals because they are drilled to sound like that because they are taught to "evangelize" Christians but this doesn't necessarily apply to everyone. Like I already said, please set them straight and motion them to take a clear stand. But if they die while still not having disavowed their background then God will do the sorting out. Mormons don't disbelieve the Bible, that is what makes this possible.