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    Thumbs up University to Remove Crosses, Bibles & Altar from Campus Chapel

    By Todd Starnes/Twitter

    East Central University said they will remove crosses, Bibles and other religious symbols from a campus chapel to appease a bunch of out-of-town agitators.

    It's unclear when the Oklahoma school will commence with the Christian cleansing of the Kathryn P. Boswell Memorial Chapel. The chapel opened in 1957.

    "We will continue to use the building as we always have, for all faiths," ECU President Katricia Pierson said in a statement to the Ada News. "We do not want to presume to embrace one faith over another. We support all cultures and attempt to make them comfortable when they are here."

    The university's president went on to say they are "looking at the feasibility of removing the cross on the steeple, but need to respond to the request for removal of religious icons from the chapel."

    "We are exploring options for preserving the items," she said.

    So on the bright side, it appears East Central University will not burn the Bibles or toss the crosses into a wood chipper.

    Americans United for the Separation of Church and State is responsible for the Christian cleansing at ECU. They fired off a terse letter accusing the school of displaying "religious iconography." That letter was obtained by the Ada News.
    "These displays include Latin crosses on the top of and inside the building, Bibles and a Christian altar," the letter stated. "While it is legal for a public university to have a space that can be used by students for religious worship so long as that space is not dedicated solely to that purpose, it is a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to display religious iconography on government property."

    http://www.toddstarnes.com/column/un...-campus-chapel

    Next they'll be coming after local Churches. They're searching for obsolete ordinances to find a way to have them removed.
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    This is just absurd! I didn't realize it was here in OK.

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    Good News!



    University: We screwed up! We won't toss out Bibles or crosses
    By Todd Starnes
    Published July 01, 2017
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...r-crosses.html

    The leadership at Oklahoma's East Central University slammed on the brakes and jettisoned their decision to removes crosses, Bibles and other religious symbols from a historic campus chapel.

    "We moved too quickly," ECU president Katricia Pierson said in a prepared statement. "We regret not taking time to pause and thoughtfully consider the request and the results of our actions on all of the students, faculty and community members who we serve."


    ...The reversal came just a few hours after I unleashed our readers and listeners on the university ...


    ...Earlier in the week, the university had announced they would commence with a Christian cleansing of the Kathryn P. Boswell Memorial Chapel. ...


    This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity (futility) of their mind, having the understanding darkened...
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    It's funny how bold they are about this stuff when they think they're going to be uncontested. Once it hits the fan, it's a different story.

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    From the original article in the OP...


    East Central University said they will remove crosses, Bibles and other religious symbols from a campus chapel to appease a bunch of out-of-town agitators.

    And...


    Americans United for the Separation of Church and State is responsible for the Christian cleansing at ECU. They fired off a terse letter accusing the school of displaying "religious iconography." That letter was obtained by the Ada News.

    "These displays include Latin crosses on the top of and inside the building, Bibles and a Christian altar," the letter stated. "While it is legal for a public university to have a space that can be used by students for religious worship so long as that space is not dedicated solely to that purpose, it is a violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution to display religious iconography on government property."

    That's a great big load of legal malarkey.

    Hiram Sasser, director of litigation for First Liberty Institute, said there is federal precedent to maintain chapels in taxpayer-funded facilities.

    "We have a Congressional Prayer Room in the Capitol, we have chapels in government owned airports and many other government owned chapels," Sasser told me.

    Sasser suspects Americans United is just testing Oklahoma's new attorney general – Mike Hunter.

    "They want to see if he backs down or stands up to their ridiculous claims and I predict Mike Hunter will fight hard to preserve this historic chapel," Sasser said....



    Eat dirt, devil!


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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    It's funny how bold they are about this stuff when they think they're going to be uncontested. Once it hits the fan, it's a different story.
    that is exactly what my thought was..

    ""We moved too quickly,""

    oh yeah... not, oh gee we messed up and rethought it, but we got caught and need to slow it down.

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    Good news!
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    I didn't think this sort of thing happened in Oklahoma. Aren't they considered part of the Bible Belt?

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    We are in the Bible belt, that is why this is happening. It's just like the thing with the Ten Commandments monument. We have become a target like every where else.

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    It's just a minor incident.

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