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    Usually women or money.
    He did not say so you do not know. Can people simply just pray for a person without trying to guess at what it might be. We seem to have more gossipers than intercessors in the body of Christ.
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    A good man who will do great things for the Lord as he works on whatever issues have hindered him. I look forward to the future when this day becomes a testimony of God's grace and how he will even be able to take these issues to build up thousands of others who are struggling in the battles of life.
    Question: why does it have to be to "thousands of others"? Right now I'm listening to someone on YT give commentary on Fred Jr's situation, and a lot of what this person is saying makes sense (even if this person has a root of bitterness against "church", which IMO he has) BUT...basically this person is saying that the whole "restoration" process as practiced by a lot of charismatic/pente churches is a sham...Someone on this forum (might have been Archbishop Twinkles, I'm not sure ) said in essence, these folk (pastors, ministry leaders) that have had 'personal misjudgements' (SIN) in their lives don't need to return to a pulpit after being "restored" (who exactly determines that anyway?) but go flip burgers somewhere and focus on serving God in their own sphere of influence.

    Over the years we've seen a lot of public "fall from graces"...we've roasted these persons on the forum ad nauseum... I for one really don't care if these people get back on the same level they were before "their fall from grace", but as long as they are truly repentant and not trying to regain whatever "glory" or pedestal people place them on, then I pray they do well.

    here's the video I was watching (there is a Part one but it was basically the clip Krystian posted)


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    Quote Originally Posted by fuego View Post
    I still remember when I was at Bro Hagin's camp meeting in Tulsa in '79 the summer before I went to Rhema that fall and Fred and Betty announced they were pregnant with him. I think they may have been in their late 40s or early 50s already. A later in life 'surprise' baby.
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    here's the video I was watching (there is a Part one but it was basically the clip Krystian posted)

    I shut this clown down after he called Price Sr. an "arrogant pri**." There's nothing he has to say that I'm interested in. Sorry excuse for a man IMO...I say man because surely he's not a brother in the Lord, so his opinion means absolutely nothing. He needs to get saved because his opinion won't mean anything on Judgment Day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    Question: why does it have to be to "thousands of others"? Right now I'm listening to someone on YT give commentary on Fred Jr's situation, and a lot of what this person is saying makes sense (even if this person has a root of bitterness against "church", which IMO he has)
    That right there is enough for me NOT to watch the video. Anyone with bitterness in their hearts is not walking in God's love, is not hearing from God, and has tainted anything worthwhile he might have added to the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    He did not say so you do not know. Can people simply just pray for a person without trying to guess at what it might be. We seem to have more gossipers than intercessors in the body of Christ.
    I do not with 100% accuracy know what this man did. But it must have been major to resign a mega-church. You have to admit that most of these situations are stemming from these two sins. They are usually sins that are intertwined. You may think I am wrong, but just observe and see if I am not right. I have seen it happen to many preachers. What a disgrace and shame on the Name of God.

    BTW, I have no bitterness against the church or preachers. I have a love and high respect for both.
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    I don't think that that was either TT's or my concern. My concern is that a damaged reputation may hinder the minister from continuing to minister effectively even if there is full restoration. We both were concerned that the repentance itself may be a sham, making the restoration a sham. For instance the "find young woman, divorce old wife, go through restoration while courting young woman, finish restoration and marry young woman and go back on the pulpit" thing that seems to happen here and there. Which is basically a matter of waiting out the restoration process and it seems to never result in repenting as in admitting being tempted into divorce by the appearance of the new flame then having the original marriage restored.

    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulOne View Post
    Question: why does it have to be to "thousands of others"? Right now I'm listening to someone on YT give commentary on Fred Jr's situation, and a lot of what this person is saying makes sense (even if this person has a root of bitterness against "church", which IMO he has) BUT...basically this person is saying that the whole "restoration" process as practiced by a lot of charismatic/pente churches is a sham...Someone on this forum (might have been Archbishop Twinkles, I'm not sure ) said in essence, these folk (pastors, ministry leaders) that have had 'personal misjudgements' (SIN) in their lives don't need to return to a pulpit after being "restored" (who exactly determines that anyway?) but go flip burgers somewhere and focus on serving God in their own sphere of influence.

    Over the years we've seen a lot of public "fall from graces"...we've roasted these persons on the forum ad nauseum... I for one really don't care if these people get back on the same level they were before "their fall from grace", but as long as they are truly repentant and not trying to regain whatever "glory" or pedestal people place them on, then I pray they do well.

    here's the video I was watching (there is a Part one but it was basically the clip Krystian posted)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikos View Post
    I do not know with 100% accuracy know what this man did. But it must have been major to resign a mega-church. You have to admit that most of these situations are stemming from these two sins. They are usually sins that are intertwined. You may think I am wrong, but just observe and see if I am not right. I have seen it happen to many preachers. What a disgrace and shame on the Name of God.

    BTW, I have no bitterness against the church or preachers. I have a love and high respect for both.
    Never said you were wrong. You could be 100% right but since there is no concrete evidence then there is no basis for judging FPJ's motives for resigning a mega church. Some senior pastors have resigned from mega-churches due to DEPRESSION and not so much immorality. One man resigned a mega-church because the leaders that worked along with him stifled him from other projects meant to reach the lost and hurting. Feeling that he could not reach more he became dissatisfied and resigned.

    Not everyone is caught up in the "glory" of being a mega-church pastor nor does everyone resigned based on immorality. But even if the case happens to be immoral, we should love and pray for him whether he pastors a megachurch or a small church. The body of Christ must stop shooting its wounded, regardless of their prominence, and begin to pray for one another. As Jimmy Swaggart once said, the Christian army is the only army that shoots its own wounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Never said you were wrong. You could be 100% right but since there is no concrete evidence then there is no basis for judging FPJ's motives for resigning a mega church. Some senior pastors have resigned from mega-churches due to DEPRESSION and not so much immorality. One man resigned a mega-church because the leaders that worked along with him stifled him from other projects meant to reach the lost and hurting. Feeling that he could not reach more he became dissatisfied and resigned.

    Not everyone is caught up in the "glory" of being a mega-church pastor nor does everyone resigned based on immorality. But even if the case happens to be immoral, we should love and pray for him whether he pastors a megachurch or a small church. The body of Christ must stop shooting its wounded, regardless of their prominence, and begin to pray for one another. As Jimmy Swaggart once said, the Christian army is the only army that shoots its own wounded.
    Healing the wound may require true repentance :

    Heb 12:12 Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees.
    13 “Make level paths for your feet,” so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed

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    Healing the wound may require true repentance :

    Heb 12:12 Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees.
    13 “Make level paths for your feet,” so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed
    I am sure that it will but only God and those who assist in the restoration process can determine if there is true repentance. Those of us not involved should only pray if we are concerned. If we are not concerned and won't pray we should at least refrain from speculating about what a person's sin is (if we don't know) and whether or not the person has truly repented. With the same measure that we judge others it will be measured to us again.
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