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    Survey - Christians are Heretics

    This should be interesting reading for some...

    Survey Finds Most American Christians Are Actually Heretics

    Evangelical writer Eric Metaxas remarked on BreakPoint last week that if Americans took a theology exam, their only hope of passing would be if God graded on a curve. He's right. In knowing both the content of the Bible and the doctrinal foundations of Christianity, we Americans aren't just at the bottom of our class. We are, as Ross Douthat argues in his book, "Bad Religion," a nation of heretics.

    A survey of 3,000 people conducted by LifeWay Research and commissioned by Ligonier Ministries found that although Americans still overwhelmingly identify as "Christian," startling percentages of the nation embrace ancient errors condemned by all major Christian traditions. These are not minor points of doctrine, but core ideas that define Christianity itself. The really sad part? Even when we're denying the divinity of Christ, we can't keep our story straight. Americans talking about theology sound about as competent as country singers rapping.
    We're an Embarrassment to Heretics Everywhere

    Seven out of ten respondents in LifeWay's survey affirmed the doctrine of the Trinity—that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three Persons but one God, and six in ten agreed that Jesus is both human and divine. Their orthodoxy—and consistency—ended there. More than half went on to indicate that Jesus is "the first and greatest being created by God," a heresy known as Arianism, which the Council of Nicaea condemned in 325 A.D.

    source - http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/10/...ually-heretics

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    Yep, I mentioned this in the thread Americans’ Shocking Ignorance About Theology which points you to Evangelicals' Favorite Heresies Revisited by Researchers where there are pictures (Management likes pictures)

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    There's a lot of ignorance going around causing many to believe OSAS theology which is where false grace teaching comes from.
    The full report can be found HERE on the Lifeway Research site. Naturally OSAS is never mentioned as it's irrelevant in the scheme of such things.

    An interesting thing coming out of the research is the strong religious beliefs of the African-Americans (even when they're wrong).

    One of the saddest comments in the report is that "77% of Americans agree “an individual must contribute his or her own effort for personal salvation.” Similarly, 69% of Americans agree “a person obtains peace with God by first taking the initiative to seek God and then God responds with grace"

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    OSAS is never mentioned as it's irrelevant in the scheme of such things
    Yeah, why bother mentioning the top heresy of all times

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    Yeah, why bother mentioning the top heresy of all times
    Well it's a really just a flow on from the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies which, as you can see above, up to 77% of people (including you) believe in to some extent. It's not stand-alone enough to mention by itself.

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    No, I don't believe in OSAS... it's heresy and is not biblical.

    Thanks for asking though

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    No, I don't believe in OSAS... it's heresy and is not biblical.

    Thanks for asking though
    I know you don't believe in OSAS as it flows from the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies (or the Biblical Preservation of the Saints) but you DO believe parts of the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies.

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    No, I don't believe in OSAS... it's heresy and is not biblical.

    Thanks for asking though

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    No, I don't believe in OSAS... it's heresy and is not biblical.

    Thanks for asking though
    Deja vu (but with emphasis to assist in the comprehension)

    I know you don't believe in OSAS as it flows from the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies (or the Biblical Preservation of the Saints) but you DO believe parts of the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies.

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    No, I don't believe in OSAS... it's heresy and is not biblical.

    Thanks for asking though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farm Truck View Post
    No, I don't believe in OSAS... it's heresy and is not biblical.

    Thanks for asking though
    What level English comprehension did you reach?

    Deja deja vu (please read this slowly)

    I know
    (that) you
    don't believe
    in OSAS as it flows from
    the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies

    but you DO
    believe parts
    of
    the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies.

    The first part acknowledges that you don't believe in OSAS

    the second part indicates that in spite of this you DO believe some parts of the Pelagianism and Semi-pelagianism heresies.

    Forget the bits you think are heresy that you don't believe,

    address the bits of the heresies that you do believe.

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