The UMC here is in trouble. A husband and wife team are among them "pastoring" 6 churches. The last time I spoke with her she was headed into universalism...as a result of her home seminary studies. The husband knows less of the bible than most new converts. Very few UMC churches have conservative views. Their "conservative" is not usually bible "conservative". The Presbyterian USA is in the same condition. They better repent or their troubles are going to swallow them up very soon.