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    Quote Originally Posted by curly sue View Post
    The last MS product I had was XP.
    Do you use a sun dial to tell time

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    I remember fine tuning the init file for MS Dos so it would actually run the hardware and the programs I used. I remember Colossal Adventure and XYZZY in 1981. I'm not sure which Windows version I have now, it may be 7 or 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Do you use a sun dial to tell time
    No, I use an hour glass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkfish View Post
    Sorry, I stand corrected; I should have been more clear. I meant to say that there will not be a "subscription" charge added to 10. Once you have 10, you have 10. To consumers, there will be no further costs associated with continuing to use 10, or to ensure that it is up-to-date. Of course, if you buy a new device, you're still going to need a new Windows 10 for it (whether it's a PC, laptop, tablet, or phone), and the cost will likely be included in that purchase.

    It is correct that the "free to upgrade from 7/8" offer lasts for one year. After this, if you are still on 7/8 and wish to upgrade to 10, then yes, you will have to pay a one-off fee. There will be no subscription or ongoing charge to consumers for Windows 10.

    (I keep clarifying "for consumers" because different rules apply to enterprise business, as they do today)

    I've a lot of respect for what Microsoft is trying to do, and the way they are doing it :) (And I used to really hate those guys ;) )

    I've been using pre-releases of 10 for months on a laptop and upgraded my main PC to the finished version over the weekend :) Would recommend... Especially if you didn't get on with 8 ;)
    Thanks Monk, after I read John's links I found an article on Forbes.Com and they said essentially what you said. So far I'm liking 10.

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    Windows 10 comes with built-in spyware. If your work requires confidentiality, DO NOT INSTALL.

    Friends of mine in government, in law offices, or in doctors offices often have a work/personal email that comes with a disclaimer. "This communication is confidential," etc, and is intended only for the recipient. It's a bit of legalese, but it's necessary, especially for people who work in law or medicine, who have to comply with some pretty strict confidentiality laws and agreements.

    If you have any job or work which requires some kind of legally or professionally-mandated confidentiality, whether it's Doctor-Patient or Attourney-Client, you should not use Windows 10, even on your home machine.

    That's because by installing Windows 10, you're agreeing to an End User License Agreement which gives Microsoft permission to read your emails, record your location and activities, log your browsing history and what programs and applications you run, and share these with "trusted" sources. You're also agreeing that Microsoft can turn over the content of those emails along with data about you mined from your computer, to any trusted partner, or to any law enforcement agency based on a "good faith" determination by Microsoft that the content is needed by that agency.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...DO-NOT-INSTALL

    a few more articles...

    https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=w...re&FORM=HDRSC6

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Windows 10 comes with built-in spyware. If your work requires confidentiality, DO NOT INSTALL.



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...DO-NOT-INSTALL

    a few more articles...

    https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=w...re&FORM=HDRSC6
    Shouldn't we be alarmed by all that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.J. View Post
    Shouldn't we be alarmed by all that???

    Don't fear..........John loves conspiracy theories about the govt spying and taking over our lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    Don't fear..........John loves conspiracy theories about the govt spying and taking over our lives
    It could be seen as a matter of the government pressuring software makers to make it easier for them to gain access so that they can do large scale surveillance in relation to terrorism prevention. Like most people I'm not that concerned in the here and now but I'm concerned in relation to how things may develop into the future.

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    I may not agree with John on the conspiracy theories but I fully agree with him that we should consider Linux. if more people went Linux then Microsoft would feel more of the competition. Apple is expensive as all get-out and Microsoft knows that they have the largest corner of the market due to dependency. However, if more people were interested in Linux then software companies might feel more obligated to create software packages for this platform.

    I used to explore Linux but gave up on it some years ago due to my MS software dependency that Linux never could provide. However, I do plan to get start trying it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    I may not agree with John on the conspiracy theories but I fully agree with him that we should consider Linux. if more people went Linux then Microsoft would feel more of the competition. Apple is expensive as all get-out and Microsoft knows that they have the largest corner of the market due to dependency. However, if more people were interested in Linux then software companies might feel more obligated to create software packages for this platform.

    I used to explore Linux but gave up on it some years ago due to my MS software dependency that Linux never could provide. However, I do plan to get start trying it again.
    linux is a lot better now, I get ya on some of the past issues but ubuntu pretty much runs out of the box.

    > Conspiracy theories?

    Did you read the MS terms of use? Are they not asking you to share everything?

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