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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Bookman View Post
    I wasn't drawn to God because I feared His wrath. I was drawn because of His love for me.
    Still you were under His wrath untill He drew you to Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Still you were under His wrath untill He drew you to Him.
    Yes, but I'm sort of glad I didn't realize it at the time. God knew the way I needed to hear the good news of the gospel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal TT View Post
    FFO has made a point of informing us ad nauseum how God is wrathful, angry and full of vengeance.
    I did a search and can't find where I've used the word "wrathful" TT. Other(s) have though. And I doubt if I'd call God "angry and full of vengeance" because that's not how He is.

    Some stats below, and it isn't that often TT, but God's wrath is a central part of the Gospel message. Jn 3:36 says, "The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him", and this verse, declaring the state of all unbelievers, is just as important in presenting the Gospel as Jn 3:16.


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    I did a search for posts with "wrath" in the title and this is what I find going back to 2016.

    Me:
    Started 19 May 20 On the Wrath of God- is it an essential or fundamental attribute of God?
    Started 20 Nov 20 On the Wrath of God

    VW:
    Started 07 Apr 20 Wrath Has Gone Out from God's Presence
    Started 06 May 20 The Wrath of God: What It Is and How It is Executed
    Started 07 Aug 20 The Wrath of God

    Colonel:
    Started 24 Apr 20 The Wrath of God

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    You are being disingenuous...You know exactly what I mean and so do others who have read previous posts
    Because you never used the word 'wrathful' doesn't mean you haven't portrayed God that way and promoted that view on here

    Please answer the question ...Do you tell unsaved family, friends, neighbours, colleagues, general public how God's wrath abides on them?
    Do you talk regularly about God's wrath to fellow believers?

    If you don't then you are practising hypocrisy....If God's wrath is so important then you need to spread it EVERYWHERE not just on this forum

    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    I did a search and can't find where I've used the word "wrathful" TT. Other(s) have though. And I doubt if I'd call God "angry and full of vengeance" because that's not how He is.

    Some stats below, and it isn't that often TT, but God's wrath is a central part of the Gospel message. Jn 3:36 says, "The one who believes in the Son has eternal life; but the one who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him", and this verse, declaring the state of all unbelievers, is just as important in presenting the Gospel as Jn 3:16.


    Stats:

    I did a search for posts with "wrath" in the title and this is what I find going back to 2016.

    Me:
    Started 19 May 20 On the Wrath of God- is it an essential or fundamental attribute of God?
    Started 20 Nov 20 On the Wrath of God

    VW:
    Started 07 Apr 20 Wrath Has Gone Out from God's Presence
    Started 06 May 20 The Wrath of God: What It Is and How It is Executed
    Started 07 Aug 20 The Wrath of God

    Colonel:
    Started 24 Apr 20 The Wrath of God

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    Regarding previous discussions about God's wrath.
    If members can honestly say FFO does not highlight and promote God as wrath, anger, vengeful - I will make a public apology of accusing him wrongly in my above comments.
    (That doesn't mean FFO hasn't commented on many other topics)




    There is a funny side to this which gave me a chuckle - thanks FFO

    FFO you said...
    I did a search and can't find where I've used the word "wrathful" TT. Other(s) have though. And I doubt if I'd call God "angry and full of vengeance" because that's not how He is.
    Do you recognise the irony...You made the above comment on this thread which you called - On The Wrath Of God and then told us 6 major points to God's wrath

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    Some definitions of "wrathful". Did I really refer to God like this?


    • Full of or characterized by wrath; fiercely angry.
    • full of wrath; raging or furious, resulting from or expressing wrath
    • extremely angry; enraged. characterized by or showing wrath
    • vehemently incensed and condemnatory;
    • Full of or marked by extreme anger:



    Wrathful - definition of wrathful by The Free Dictionary

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    ^^^^Please answer my question about telling everyone about God's wrath instead of deflecting

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunFromOz View Post
    Still you were under His wrath untill He drew you to Him.
    John 12:32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all to Myself." Calvin's false doctrine has been soundly refuted here. Why do you keep pushing it on us ??

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    I think it must be understood that God's wrath is directed at SIN. His love is directed at sinners (to redeem them). When sinners embrace their sinfulness, they're embracing that which angers God. Thus when His wrath is poured out against sin, those who love sin will be rewarded as sin is rewarded. Those who escape the wrath of God by renouncing sin and embracing righteousness will be saved. The point is that God is righteous in his anger and judgement against sin. Those who are wise will depart from sin and accept the free gift of Christ's righteousness.

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