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    Troy, do you have any commentary on why and how Satan gained access to bring destruction into Job's life? He was a God fearing man yet, somehow, Satan gained access to kill Job's family and inflict him with sickness. I know Satan asked God for permission to do this, and God granted the devil to wreck Job's life. What was the reason? Was there some hidden sin in Job's life that gave Satan a legal right to ask God to give him access to rob, steal, and destroy Job's life, just short of death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Troy, do you have any commentary on why and how Satan gained access to bring destruction into Job's life? He was a God fearing man yet, somehow, Satan gained access to kill Job's family and inflict him with sickness. I know Satan asked God for permission to do this, and God granted the devil to wreck Job's life. What was the reason? Was there some hidden sin in Job's life that gave Satan a legal right to ask God to give him access to rob, steal, and destroy Job's life, just short of death?
    Smitty

    I briefly talk about this in my book, "God's Word: Devil Destruction Power". Let me copy and paste part of it here:

    Despite what so many claim about Job, there is no divine purpose behind Job’s sufferings. The whole book is about Satan’s hatred for God and man and how God has to sometimes deal with His adversary.

    One may ask, “Well, if God did not want this to happen then why didn’t He just deal with Satan? After all, He is more powerful.” For the sake of his and Job’s integrity and for the sake of the entire universe God could not allow Satan’s challenge to go unmet. The issue is not a matter of power, but of trust. If God would have overpowered Satan (something He could have easily done) He may have been rid of an evil nuisance but this would not have solved the problems of trust and righteousness.

    Furthermore, my latest article, "God Took My _____ (Name Your Relative)" my also be helpful in answering your question concerning Job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Troy, do you have any commentary on why and how Satan gained access to bring destruction into Job's life? He was a God fearing man yet, somehow, Satan gained access to kill Job's family and inflict him with sickness. I know Satan asked God for permission to do this, and God granted the devil to wreck Job's life. What was the reason? Was there some hidden sin in Job's life that gave Satan a legal right to ask God to give him access to rob, steal, and destroy Job's life, just short of death?
    Elihu has plenty of answers to that in Job 32-36. For instance :

    Job 36:8 And if they are bound in fetters,
    Held in the cords of affliction,
    9 Then He tells them their work and their transgressions—
    That they have acted defiantly.
    10 He also opens their ear to instruction,
    And commands that they turn from iniquity.
    11 If they obey and serve Him,
    They shall spend their days in prosperity,
    And their years in pleasures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by victoryword View Post
    Smitty

    I briefly talk about this in my book, "God's Word: Devil Destruction Power". Let me copy and paste part of it here:

    Despite what so many claim about Job, there is no divine purpose behind Job's sufferings. The whole book is about Satan's hatred for God and man and how God has to sometimes deal with His adversary.

    One may ask, "Well, if God did not want this to happen then why didn't He just deal with Satan? After all, He is more powerful." For the sake of his and Job's integrity and for the sake of the entire universe God could not allow Satan's challenge to go unmet. The issue is not a matter of power, but of trust. If God would have overpowered Satan (something He could have easily done) He may have been rid of an evil nuisance but this would not have solved the problems of trust and righteousness.

    Furthermore, my latest article, "God Took My _____ (Name Your Relative)" my also be helpful in answering your question concerning Job.

    Thanks Troy for your observation in this matter.
    I've heard preachers say that Job's fear (Job 3:25) was the open door that the devil used to demand a gateway into Job's life.
    The bible does say to give no place to the devil, yet at the same time, it also says that he is our adversary and is the god of this present world.
    Paul wrote that we would have tribulation and persecution in our Christian walk, along with James mentioning that we would also face trials in our life while in this present age.
    At a future date, John the revelator said that the devil will make war with the saints, and overcome them (Rev:13:7).
    So, we are not exempt from the attacks of the evil one, no matter how long we have been a believer and have walked with the Lord.
    I like what you said that, "the issue is not a matter of power, but of trust."
    Two of my favorite verses that have been and always will be a comfort to me when in the midst of a "storm of life" are:

    Many are the afflictions of the righteous,
    But the Lord delivers him out of them all(Psm 34:19).

    And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom(2 Tim 4:18).

    God is faithful, the devil is a liar, and the Lord has always brought me through every onslaught of evil satan has thrown at me because of my trust in Him and in His precious unfailing word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Thanks Troy for your observation in this matter.
    I've heard preachers say that Job's fear (Job 3:25) was the open door that the devil used to demand a gateway into Job's life.
    Neither Elihu nor God himself mention that during their conclusion at the end of the book.

    Based on what either one of them did say, we have a clue here :

    Job 36:8 And if they are bound in fetters,
    Held in the cords of affliction,
    9 Then He tells them their work and their transgressions—
    That they have acted defiantly.

    So it's not the fetters and cords of affliction but the fact that Job kept being held by them. Why was he ? Elihu states that Job has acted defiantly. Both Elihu and later God himself state that Job has spoken wrongly about God, based on a lack of knowledge. Only when Job repented specifically from that was he restored.

    There's a clue here too :

    Job 35:9 “Because of the multitude of oppressions they cry out;
    They cry out for help because of the arm of the mighty.
    10 But no one says, ‘Where is God my Maker,
    Who gives songs in the night,
    11 Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth,
    And makes us wiser than the birds of heaven?’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel View Post
    Both Elihu and later God himself state that Job has spoken wrongly about God, based on a lack of knowledge. Only when Job repented specifically from that was he restored.
    Did Job repent of attributing satans destructive work in his life and family of that being Gods handiwork?

    ..."the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away, blessed be the name of the Lord(Job 1:21).

    Clearly, Job was definitely operating in a lack of knowledge when he blamed God for what the devil had taken away in his life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Did Job repent of attributing satans destructive work in his life and family of that being Gods handiwork?

    …"the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away, blessed be the name of the Lord(Job 1:21).

    Clearly, Job was definitely operating in a lack of knowledge when he blamed God for what the devil had taken away in his life.
    He "cried out for help because of the arm of the mighty" but he didn't seek God for relationship. He was righteous (maybe even what Solomon referred to as "too righteous" in Ecclesiastes) until things got bad and then he was suddenly more righteous than God. Which really just meant that he became God's accuser.

    Job 34:34 “Men of understanding say to me,
    Wise men who listen to me:
    35 ‘Job speaks without knowledge,
    His words are without wisdom.’
    36 Oh, that Job were tried to the utmost,
    Because his answers are like those of wicked men!
    37 For he adds rebellion to his sin;
    He claps his hands among us,
    And multiplies his words against God.”

    Consider what would have happened if Jesus had acted like Job did when he was in the garden of Gethsemane or while hanging on the cross. Or when considering his future while he was in Sheol.

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    Now having knowledge about God and then relationship promotes faith. Not just that God exists but that he blesses just like he blessed Abraham. Did Job have that kind of faith ? He did not and when the trial came, he ended up in self righteousness, rebellion and accusation against God instead of resting in faith like Jesus did.

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    Now having knowledge about God and then relationship promotes faith. Not just that God exists but that he blesses just like he blessed Abraham. Did Job have that kind of faith ? He did not and when the trial came, he ended up in self righteousness, rebellion and accusation against God instead of resting in faith like Jesus did.
    8 Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”
    When God thinks so good about Job, I can not blame him for anything. Ok, Job was not like Jesus, but neither me nor you nor anybody else is
    like Jesus.

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